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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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I have two budgies and I am not really good with mutations but it is a very interesting topic. So, I got my budgies in a pet store so I don’t really know their genetics. I have a Sf yellow face sky blue male and an albino female (mutations confirmed here), so how can you produce a yellow faced or an albino budgie?Like I sorta wanna know how they got their mutations. I mean maybe their parents are just both yellow faced and albinos, but most likely not. I know I won’t be able to track their parents mutations through this, I wish I had known. I guess what I am trying to say is Budgie mutations are so cool and genetics is so cool lol I guess im just really fascinated that’s all


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Old 01-29-2019, 04:27 AM
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I agree, the genetics is very cool!

YF is a dominant mutation, so having one parent with yf is enough to get some chicks with it.

Albino is sexlinked recessive, so either both parents were ino, or just the father was, or he was split for ino. You can't get an ino chick if just the mother is an ino.
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I agree, the genetics is very cool!

YF is a dominant mutation, so having one parent with yf is enough to get some chicks with it.

Albino is sexlinked recessive, so either both parents were ino, or just the father was, or he was split for ino. You can't get an ino chick if just the mother is an ino.
Thank you!! So if they ever mate and have babies they will all be normal blue or some yf blue.
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Thank you!! So if they ever mate and have babies they will all be normal blue or some yf blue.
Not necessarily, given those mutations you would be correct in assuming that sky blue and SF YF1 sky blue are possible combinations.

However that doesn't mean that *other* combinations aren't also possible. For example, your male may be a carrier for sex-linked traits like opaline, cinnamon, or ino, and either bird may be a carrier for autosomal traits such as recessive pied, greywing, or dilute.

If this is the case, you will have a larger variety of possible combinations. Although the only way to confirm this (shy of a DNA test or pedigree chart) is to observe the resultant chicks from the pairing.

EDIT: In addition, albino can often mask the presence of other traits related to colour and patterning, so it’s possible that your female could possess other traits without you realising.
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Not necessarily, given those mutations you would be correct in assuming that sky blue and SF YF1 sky blue are possible combinations.

However that doesn't mean that *other* combinations aren't also possible. For example, your male may be a carrier for sex-linked traits like opaline, cinnamon, or ino, and either bird may be a carrier for autosomal traits such as recessive pied, greywing, or dilute.

If this is the case, you will have a larger variety of possible combinations. Although the only way to confirm this (shy of a DNA test or pedigree chart) is to observe the resultant chicks from the pairing.

EDIT: In addition, albino can often mask the presence of other traits related to colour and patterning, so it’s possible that your female could possess other traits without you realising.
Woah mind blown! Lol thank you! I don’t really have breeding plans just wondering but that sounds really awesome! So what mutations are the only sex-linked? You mention Opaline, cinnamon, and ino.. are these the only sex linked mutations?

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It’s great that you’re taking such an interest~

Opaline, cinnamon, and ino are examples of some of the more common sex-linked traits in budgies. Texas clearbody is another sex-linked trait, although it's often grouped in with ino since it's technically a variation of the same gene.
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To add to the possibilities, you could also get other body colours such as cobalt, violet skyblue or grey. The albino could be any other variety, not just sex-linked ones, also. So you could get anything!
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It’s great that you’re taking such an interest~

Opaline, cinnamon, and ino are examples of some of the more common sex-linked traits in budgies. Texas clearbody is another sex-linked trait, although it's often grouped in with ino since it's technically a variation of the same gene.
It is very interesting! Thank you so much for your time answering my questions. You mentioned on your other post the word “mask” what does that mean when a budgie could be masking something?
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To add to the possibilities, you could also get other body colours such as cobalt, violet skyblue or grey. The albino could be any other variety, not just sex-linked ones, also. So you could get anything!
What do you mean by an albino could be any other variety? And thank you for answering!
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