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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 02-09-2019, 11:00 PM
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Hi all,

I’m newish to the Budgie world, but already addicted! I currently have 7 budgies, 6 babies and one adult hen. I’ve spent about 2 solid weeks researching genetics and mutations but I seem to be getting more and more confused...
Could someone much more knowledgeable than me please have a go at identifying these guys?
I think it will be easier to learn to spot the different colours and mutations once I’ve got my own 7 down pat.
I’m embarrassed to have a go at guessing here because I think I’ve failed miserably but here goes..

-Adult hen- Cobalt (maybe SF violet? She has violet colouring around her neck and shoulders)
-Cobalt DF violet
-Sky blue opaline with maybe SF violet (also has violet around shoulder area and a general violet-y sheen when in good lighting)
-Mauve spangle (??)
- Olive green SF violet Clearflight (she has very bright/ deep violet cheek patches and dark blue tail feathers just coming through)
-Green spangle (this one also has blue or violet tones around feet and vent)
- Yellowface cinnamon ....and that’s as far as I get with this little guy. Tail feathers still coming through but look to be yellow and black.

Any help here would be greatly appreciated!

I hope I’ve uploaded the photos correctly- definitely a newbie here.

https://imgur.com/a/RKkIfGP
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Ok, I'm just going to go per picture, from left to right

1. Sky blue sf violet opaline, olive green spangle, then the greyish one is either mauve spangle or grey sf violet spangle (can't tell from that pic - what colour are his/her cheek patches? and the last green budgie is olive, clearflight pied, looks like.

2. First two from the left are the same green budgies from the last pic, so I'll omit them here. Continuing on, the blue hen is skyblue normal, the next budgie is cobalt df violet, then the yellow headed one looks to be mauve sf golden face, possibly cinnamon - it's hard to tell in the dim lighting. (any better pics?), then I see the same grey one from the last pic - he does seem to be grey rather than mauve.

I think that's everyone - they're beautiful! Also, a few of them seem like they could be siblings - did you get them from the same place?
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Ok, I'm just going to go per picture, from left to right <img src="https://www.talkbudgies.com/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />

1. Sky blue sf violet opaline, olive green spangle, then the greyish one is either mauve spangle or grey sf violet spangle (can't tell from that pic - what colour are his/her cheek patches? and the last green budgie is olive, clearflight pied, looks like.

2. First two from the left are the same green budgies from the last pic, so I'll omit them here. Continuing on, the blue hen is skyblue normal, the next budgie is cobalt df violet, then the yellow headed one looks to be mauve sf golden face, possibly cinnamon - it's hard to tell in the dim lighting. (any better pics?), then I see the same grey one from the last pic - he does seem to be grey rather than mauve.

I think that's everyone - they're beautiful! Also, a few of them seem like they could be siblings - did you get them from the same place?
Ahh thank you!! I haven’t done too badly then it seems.
I’ll upload some better pictures but thanks so much for replying- a huge help!
I’m not sure if they’re siblings but the Clearflight pied, Cobalt DF violet and the grey one are apparently “related”, or so I’m told...(colony breeding was the answer I got when I asked how- pet shop)
The others were all bought from different breeders.
Below my post is the link for (hopefully!) more clearer pictures. The sky blue hen really seems to have a violet shade across the shoulders and neck- do you think she is really normal sky blue or perhaps has a violet factor in there? She’s so hard to decipher!
I hadn’t even thought about the little cinnamon being a golden face- wow &#x1f642;
The grey/ mauve one is still a mystery to me but does have a more bluer shade than a straight grey. It’s hard to capture the colour on camera.
Again, thanks soo much for your help &#x1f642;

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Those are some great pictures

Ok, I see what you mean - in the better lighting, I can see that the sky blue normal hen is also sf violet. The cinnamon one really is cinnamon, and I agree with mauve for him still. The grey girl is also looking mauve to me, mauve spangle

The green little boy, the spangle - he's olive green sf violet spangle

You've got a lot of violet going on here

They are all adorable!
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Your budgies are beautiful

Since you have mixed genders as well as related birds, you are going to need to do everything necessary to prevent breeding.

Rearranging their cage frequently, and limiting the light they get to 8 hours a day will help tremendously.
Please be sure you never put a nest box or anything that could be used as a nesting site in their cage.

When they come into condition, limit the amount of protein in their diet at that time.
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Gorgeous flock ! As Deborah mentioned, make sure to do everything necessary to prevent breeding of the related birds. I know in your other thread, you said you wanted to eventually breed.
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Your budgies are beautiful

Since you have mixed genders as well as related birds, you are going to need to do everything necessary to prevent breeding.

Rearranging their cage frequently, and limiting the light they get to 8 hours a day will help tremendously.
Please be sure you never put a nest box or anything that could be used as a nesting site in their cage.

When they come into condition, limit the amount of protein in their diet at that time. <img src="https://www.talkbudgies.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
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Gorgeous flock <img src="https://www.talkbudgies.com/images/newsmilies/love-smiley-015.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Love Smiley 015" class="inlineimg" />! As Deborah mentioned, make sure to do everything necessary to prevent breeding of the related birds. I know in your other thread, you said you wanted to eventually breed.
It’s been awhile since I’ve been on here but thank you both for your advice.
Yes, way down the track I would like to breed at least one pair of budgies when they mature, but I do plan to remove the pair to a seperate nesting box when the time comes. The budgies I have at the moment will be moving into a small/ medium aviary in about a month when I have finished setting it up. I want to keep the aviary as natural as possible, eg eucalyptus branches, natural perches, safe plants etc. I know not to add any nesting boxes or anything that could be used as a nest like deep food dishes, but what other precautions should I take? I definitely do not want any breeding happening in the aviary.
When you say “limit protein”, what kinds of foods should I be omitting? At the moment they are fed a variety of food- they have their seed of course, and millet as well as their own “veggie garden” in a hanging pot (I have about 6 pots of leafy veggies that I grow for the birds, placing one in cage at a time and replacing as necessary). I also very occasionally give them boiled egg and shell, as well as different veggie seeds and natural seed grasses. I’m not very good with my food groups- are they already getting too much protein?
Thanks in advance!
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