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Old 11-14-2009, 09:45 PM
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Thought I would start a proper thread so I don't hijack jimjamandsonny's thread. I will copy and paste here:

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Did I read this right? Is it possible to get blue babies from a grey x green pairing, if the green budgie is split to blue? I had thought they would only produce greys and grey greens?
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As long as the grey is single factor you will get blues
I guess my next question would be how do you tell a single factor grey from a double factor?

Here are the parents, Mystique and George:






Here are the four little ones (picture taken yesterday). Babies at 17 days (2), 16 days and 9 days:



I was expecting all grey green babies, and one does appear to be a grey green. But one appears to be the same shade of green as George, and one is grey. Does this mean that Mystique is a single factor grey? The youngest I am not sure on color yet, but he or she may be another grey. If there is a possibility of blue that would be cool to have each one a different color, but I will not be disappointed either way .


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Old 11-20-2009, 10:34 PM
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What beautiful babies! I just absolutely have a love for gray and for violet budgies. Not that I don't love them all, but I find those colors particularly lovely. Your gray budgie is just beautiful!

Sorry I cannot help you with any mutation information - I'm so bad that way - but hoping one of our members will come along to provide that type of help for you!
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yep single factor grey parent on one side, and green split for blue on the other. Looks like you have a green, a grey green, a grey and a yet to be coloured (could be blue or grey).

You might get one of each colour.
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For a budgie to be double factor grey both it's parents would have to be grey (or grey green), then it would have a 25% chance of being double factor.
Mystique must be single factor grey because if she was double factor all the chicks would be grey or grey green. George is proven to be split for blue because at least 1 of the chicks is blue based
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Thank you, Dean and Nev

I have some updated pictures if each one (taken 3 or 4 days ago):

Maggie (dark or light?) green opaline. Maggie has some clear (yellow) feathers around her neck mostly; not sure if she is technically a pied. She also has a large clear patch on the back of her head. I took a picture of her with a flash last night and her eye had a slight red tint to it? Maybe it was just the lighting, since that is the first time I have noticed that. This picture doesn't show any red but I didn't use a flash.





Kyra, grey green opaline:




Kenji, grey. All Kenji's flight feathers on his right wing are white; would he be considered a clearwing?




Boo looks to be grey as well. I can't tell yet if he is opaline? I will get a picture of him later today; he has feathered out a lot since this was taken:
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Updating this to show what colors I ended up with

Green opaline (pied?):


Opaline grey green (with mom):


grey normal (clearflight?):


Opaline grey:


I am pretty sure on their colors, but not totally sure on the shade of green on the first two. Also, the first baby has the reddish eye tint with a flash and the yellow extends down a bit on her head/chest. Is she pied? The grey with the white flights only has white flights on the right wing; would that still qualify him/her (still not sure) as a clearwing?
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i think the grey with the white flights would be a clearflight, like his mum. i do not see any clear feathers on the wings of hte green opaline so do not htink it is pied.
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