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Old 12-01-2009, 11:36 PM
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Question What mutations are these chicks?

Hi experts,
I would like some confirmation (or correction ) with the first picture and an answer for the last.

Mom is a violet recessive pied spangle
Dad is a cobalt split for recessive pied

The first chick (on the left) looks to be a cobalt recessive pied spangle, the 2nd appears to be a mauve spangle, am I correct?






For the last chick, i know it is a recessive pied but the colour appears like a dark grey so would he be a grey recessive pied? you can see the grey in this picture but it is a bit darker in real life.



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Old 12-02-2009, 04:57 AM
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Can't tell if the first chick is spangle or not without a back view. From the front it just looks like a cobalt recessive pied

The second chick is a mauve recessive pied spangle even though he has very few clear areas.

The last chick could only be grey if one of the parents was grey. It could be mauve or violet mauve
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Can't tell if the first chick is spangle or not without a back view. From the front it just looks like a cobalt recessive pied

The second chick is a mauve recessive pied spangle even though he has very few clear areas.

The last chick could only be grey if one of the parents was grey. It could be mauve or violet mauve
Nev, I think Zeena's pictures are a bit confusing.

The first picture shows two chicks; one's on the left and the other's on the right.
The second picture shows the back of the left chick. Is the left chick a cobalt recessive pied spangle?
The third picture shows the side of the right chick. Is the right chick a mauve recessive pied spangle?

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Nev, on my other thread, you confirmed for me that the oldest chick is a spangle and the younger one is a recessive pied spangle. This is when they were a little younger.
https://www.talkbudgies.com/mutations-genetics/47014-can-r-pieds-split-spangle.html
https://www.talkbudgies.com/showthrea...t=47014&page=2

I will try to get clearer and closer pics of the youngest.

Thank you so much Susan for clearing that up And i will go out buy a brand new lock today
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Nev, i managed to get some pictures of BonBon's rump:






Hopefully this will help determie his colour
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Nev, I think Zeena's pictures are a bit confusing.

The first picture shows two chicks; one's on the left and the other's on the right.
The second picture shows the back of the left chick. Is the left chick a cobalt recessive pied spangle?
The third picture shows the side of the right chick. Is the right chick a mauve recessive pied spangle?
If the 2nd picture shows the back of the chick on the left it is a recessive pied spangle
The chick on the right is also a recessive pied spangle but the recessive pied is not very obvious which is probably why I missed seeing it when the chick was younger

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Nev, i managed to get some pictures of BonBon's rump:

Hopefully this will help determie his colour
He certainly looks grey
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If the 2nd picture shows the back of the chick on the left it is a recessive pied spangle
The chick on the right is also a recessive pied spangle but the recessive pied is not very obvious which is probably why I missed seeing it when the chick was younger


He certainly looks grey
Thank you so much Nev
I was wondering, if BonBon is in fact grey, is that even possible when both parents have a blue base colour?
How about the possibility of slate?

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Thank you so much Nev
I was wondering, if BonBon is in fact grey, is that even possible when both parents have a blue base colour?
How about the possibility of slate?
Grey is a colour adding factor added to a blue base colour but because it is dominant it should show in one of the parents. Do you have a picture of the parents. It is possible that the violet is a violet grey.
Slate is very rare and it is a recessive mutation so it would have to be carried by both parents
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