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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 12-15-2009, 08:22 PM
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Question How many mutations can a budgie be split for at once?

Hi everybody,
Just out of curiousity, how many mutations can a budgie be split for at once? Is it only one?

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Old 12-15-2009, 08:54 PM
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I don't think it is only one, because a budgie could be split for recessive pied along with cinnamon along with other stuff, I think...
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:58 PM
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I don't think it is only one, because a budgie could be split for recessive pied along with cinnamon along with other stuff, I think...
I agree. If you look at what people say a bird is they have hidden genes and it can be a few different ones like Brandon says
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Well, George I know is split for blue, opaline, and possibly pied. I'm sure others here have birds split for more then three. That's what makes genetics so cool; you never know what might show up .
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Split is meant for recessive genes and not dominant genes. Spangle is a dominant gene which cannot be split in any budgie.

Split genes are recessive pieds, inos, dilutes, opalines, blue gene, cinnamons, greywings, etc. I am not too sure whether any budgie can be split for dominant pied.
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Budgies can be split for any number of mutations provided that the mutations appear on different alleles.

A bird can be split for any of the sex-linked or recessive mutations like blue, greywing, recessive pied, opaline, cinnamon, ino, fallow etc. all at the same time. Each mutation would be inherited independently according to the rules for that mutation

Multiple dominant mutations can also appear on the same budgie, the presence of one mutation may make another mutation difficult to see but when the bird is bred some of the chicks will show the mutation proving that the parent has a hidden mutation
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Multiple dominant mutations can also appear on the same budgie, the presence of one mutation may make another mutation difficult to see but when the bird is bred some of the chicks will show the mutation proving that the parent has a hidden mutation
Hidden dominant mutations are called "masked," not "split" mutations -- correct?
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Hidden dominant mutations are called "masked," not "split" mutations -- correct?
That's right. Recessive mutations can be masked also if the bird has 2 copies of the gene
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That's right. Recessive mutations can be masked also if the bird has 2 copies of the gene
Very interesting. Thank you!
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