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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Hello all!

I was hoping you could help me out with what these other budgies I just got are aswell.

The spangles are violet and sky blue.. my question is do all spangles have greyish markings on there wings or is it usually black? I have never had them before so was curious if this is how they all are or if they are greywing also or something like that. Also do you think they are dominant or recessive pieds? or anything else you think they are?

And the other one I was wondering about is the yellow faced one. He has a sea foam green body and grayish wings and throat spots. do you think hes a graywing? He has some body color on his back and a little mixed in on his wings like an opaline, but doesnt have the pattern of one like any of my other opalines? anybody have any ideas?

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The range of grey on a spangles can be dark almost black to a very light grey. The grey isn't the grey wing mutation. It looks like you have ...
1 sky blue spangle it may also have a pied gene
2 cobalt spangle
3 normal sky blue grey wing yellow face type two
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ok thanks for the info =) is it normal for spangles to have a lighter v shaped area on their backs like a opaline too? and is it just the level of dark that the parents genes had that determines how dark the pattern on there wings are?

and on the yellow faced one.. what makes you think he is a type 2 and not 1?
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I have seen spangles with a ved area on their back before and I think it's usually a mix with another mutation that makes the v shape. Mixing a pied with spangle would possible make this type of marking. It is the parents genes that determine the dark level of a spangle. The yellow in a yellow face type 2 bird goes into the body color wings and tail. That's why your bird has a sea foam green color.
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Ok thanks so much for the clarifacation! I really appreciate it =)
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Congratulations on your new budgies! They are all beautiful. I'm no good at mutations but I'm very jealous of your spangles... just lovely. I do think however that from the looks of the photo, that cage is much too small for them. It looks to me that that cage isn't even quite 18x18", the minimum size for one budgie, and for four it'd need to be significantly larger (see this thread: https://talkbudgies.com/showthread.php?t=24411 for more specific dimensions). Best of luck.
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Thanks im glad you like them =) I've always wanted spangles!
I do have to assure you though that I would NEVER consider keeping even one budgie in a cage less than 22x22... That cage was juat what I used to transport them home lol. Its vey cold here and a cage any larger I couldnt cover well enough to make sure they didnt get a draft and possibly sick. And and its much easier to take pictures in a small cage than a large one, so i took them before i moved them out of it.
Thanks for your concern though... All my budgies are kept in flights or very large cages =)
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Phew!! Glad to know it was just a transport cage-- looks perfect for that. Hope you're having fun with your beauties. Can't wait until I can add to my flock as well!
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