a discussion got me wondering - help please - Talk Budgies Forums


User Menu
Forum Home
Budgie Gallery
Budgie FAQ
Site Guidelines
How-To-Guide
Members List
Today's Posts
Log In
Register now!
Search



Advanced Search
Popular Forums
Announcements

Budgie Articles

Budgie Talk

Budgie Pictures

Budgie Videos

Budgie Behavior

Determining Gender

Your Budgie's Health

Taming and Bonding

Budgie Breeding

In Memory

Other Birds

Contests

Chit Chat

Site Information

Talk Network
Talk Budgies
Talk Cockatiels
Talk Parrotlets
Talk Parrots
Sponsored Ads

Go Back   Talk Budgies Forums > Budgie Talk > Budgie Breeding > Mutations and Genetics


Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.
Thread Description:its about yellowfaces etc

Closed Thread
 
Short URL LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 01-17-2010, 03:26 PM
xxloverxx's Avatar
xxloverxx (Missy)
Young Budgie
State:
 
Profile:xxloverxx is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 4
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 893
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 146
Rep Power: 10
xxloverxx will become famous soon enoughxxloverxx will become famous soon enough
Default a discussion got me wondering - help please

a question nev asked here on the quiz got me thinking.
i was having a discussion on another forum when someone asked how to create a green and white budgie - of which none known exist at this moment in time.


it was pointed out that unless 2 embryos fuse and there is anomoly, this isn't possible.

so i got to thinking about type 1 yellowface budgies and how a double factor yellowface has a white face.


curiosity has overtaken me now!!


i have done a lot of reading and have found out that it is possible to get a yellowfaced green budgie - it is just hard to tell because they always have a yellow mask.

so how do you tell if a green budgie is a yellowface?



without knowing this, you would have to breed yourself to know for sure.

is this how you'd do it?
*breed 2 sf type 1 blue yf to produce some df type 1 blue yf offspring.
*breed a green normal with one of the blue offspring to produce sf type 1 yf chicks.
but what percentage of the greens would be yellowface? and how would you know?

then after that, you would breed 2 of the green sf yellowfaces together and hopefully, if you kept trying end up with a white faced green at some point.

this is all theory and conjecture - if it was really as easy as all of that, the whiteface green would already exist.
but the possibilities are blowing my mind!!!

some ideas would be great.
or some theories of your own as to how to produce green and white chicks

i am really just curious as to whether the THEORY is correct. lol. or if it is something others have thought about.




excuse the long post

__________________

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 01-17-2010, 05:39 PM
riotfox's Avatar
riotfox (FoX)
Optimus Prime
State:
 
Profile:riotfox is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 2
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Lover
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vic, Australia
Posts: 4,046
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 1056
Rep Power: 14
riotfox has much to be proud ofriotfox has much to be proud ofriotfox has much to be proud ofriotfox has much to be proud ofriotfox has much to be proud ofriotfox has much to be proud ofriotfox has much to be proud ofriotfox has much to be proud of
Default

um i dont think you really can know if a green budgie is a yellowface because they already have a yellow face anyways. unless of course you breed them.

if you did the thing you said, i think all the greens would be yellowface. because the blue is a df and therefore must pass on one of the yellowface genes.

lol good luck on finding a whitefaced green! an sorry i im wrong
__________________
  #3  
Old 01-17-2010, 07:44 PM
nev90's Avatar
Member of the Month January 2009
 
Profile:nev90 is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 160+
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Breeder
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Northland, New Zealand
Posts: 3,676
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 1088
Rep Power: 15
nev90 has much to be proud ofnev90 has much to be proud ofnev90 has much to be proud ofnev90 has much to be proud ofnev90 has much to be proud ofnev90 has much to be proud ofnev90 has much to be proud ofnev90 has much to be proud of
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by xxloverxx View Post

is this how you'd do it?
*breed 2 sf type 1 blue yf to produce some df type 1 blue yf offspring.
*breed a green normal with one of the blue offspring to produce sf type 1 yf chicks.
but what percentage of the greens would be yellowface? and how would you know?

then after that, you would breed 2 of the green sf yellowfaces together and hopefully, if you kept trying end up with a white faced green at some point.

this is all theory and conjecture - if it was really as easy as all of that, the whiteface green would already exist.
but the possibilities are blowing my mind!!!
I don't think it would work because even if you managed to produce a green double factor type 1 yellow face the mutation would still be hidden by the green bird's normal yellow face
__________________
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 01-17-2010, 08:33 PM
xxloverxx's Avatar
xxloverxx (Missy)
Young Budgie
State:
 
Profile:xxloverxx is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 4
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 893
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 146
Rep Power: 10
xxloverxx will become famous soon enoughxxloverxx will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by riotfox View Post
um i dont think you really can know if a green budgie is a yellowface because they already have a yellow face anyways. unless of course you breed them.

if you did the thing you said, i think all the greens would be yellowface. because the blue is a df and therefore must pass on one of the yellowface genes.

lol good luck on finding a whitefaced green! an sorry i im wrong
thanks fox

Quote:
Originally Posted by nev90 View Post
I don't think it would work because even if you managed to produce a green double factor type 1 yellow face the mutation would still be hidden by the green bird's normal yellow face
ahh! i forgot about that.
i wondered why if there was a way you could do it that wasn't so hard, they didn't already exist LOL.
i got so excited earlier because a picture was shown of a whitefaced budgie - but it turned out it wasn't, it was just a really pale yellow lol.
thank you for clearing that up nev
__________________

  #5  
Old 01-17-2010, 08:40 PM
SpickyDavies's Avatar
Member of the Month
State:
 
Profile:SpickyDavies is offline
Gender:
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: England
Posts: 16,198
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 3081
Rep Power: 24
SpickyDavies has a reputation beyond reputeSpickyDavies has a reputation beyond reputeSpickyDavies has a reputation beyond reputeSpickyDavies has a reputation beyond reputeSpickyDavies has a reputation beyond reputeSpickyDavies has a reputation beyond reputeSpickyDavies has a reputation beyond reputeSpickyDavies has a reputation beyond reputeSpickyDavies has a reputation beyond reputeSpickyDavies has a reputation beyond reputeSpickyDavies has a reputation beyond repute
Default

.......are you meant to working?
  #6  
Old 01-17-2010, 10:12 PM
xxloverxx's Avatar
xxloverxx (Missy)
Young Budgie
State:
 
Profile:xxloverxx is offline
Gender:
Number of Budgies: 4
Budgie Experience Level: Budgie Owner
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 893
Gallery: 0
Karma:
Points: 146
Rep Power: 10
xxloverxx will become famous soon enoughxxloverxx will become famous soon enough
Default

shhhhhhh don't tell anyone, its a secret
__________________

Closed Thread



Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:48 AM.



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright © 2000- 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 2006 - , 2403 Networks LLC. All rights reserved.