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Hi.
I was just wondering if someone would be able to tell me the visual outcomes to these pairs:

WF Cinnamon Grey Cock X Rec. Pied Yellow Cinnamon Hen


and

Cinnamon Opaline Grey-Green Hen X WF Cinnamon Grey Cock

and

Normal Violet/Sky Blue Hen X Cinnamon Opaline Light Green Cock.

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I wish i could help , but im still learning breeding genitics
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my thoughts:

WF Cinnamon Grey Cock X green Rec. Pied Cinnamon Hen

- all chicks normal cinnamon split for recessive pied
- the chicks will be grey green with the possibility of greens, greys or blues if the parents are split for blue

Cinnamon Opaline Grey-Green Hen X WF Cinnamon Grey Cock
- all the chicks will be cinnamon
- the cocks will be split for opaline
- the chicks will be grey-greens (with the chance of greys, greens or blues depending on what the adults are split for!)

Normal Violet/Sky Blue Hen X Cinnamon Opaline Light Green Cock.
- cinnamon opaline hens
- normal split cinnamon opaline cocks
- colours... if the cock is not split for blue - light greens and light green violets. if he is split for blue - light greens, skyblues, light green violets and skyblue violets..

that is a lot, and probably confusing!

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Hang on, the breeder just told me neither of the Cin. Opaline's are YF. And the Pied he is yellow....does that change the outcomes?
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have edited the above response to suit
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Thankyou, it does make sense!

How would I know if the Light Green cock is split blue? Here is his lineage:
Sire- Cinnamon Grey Green
Dam- Opaline Cinnamon Grey
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Thankyou, it does make sense!

How would I know if the Light Green cock is split blue? Here is his lineage:
Sire- Cinnamon Grey Green
Dam- Opaline Cinnamon Grey
yes it will be split for blue.

grey green is a green bird, the grey gene changes the shade to grey green.
grey is a blue bird, the grey gene changes the shade to grey.

so the parents of this bird are a green bird and a blue bird each with one grey gene present. this means he recieved a green gene from its sire and a blue gene from its dam. as green is dominant it appears green but also has the blue gene present.
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Hi.
I was just wondering if someone would be able to tell me the visual outcomes to these pairs:

WF Cinnamon Grey Cock X Rec. Pied Yellow Cinnamon Hen
If the hen is not split for blue & the cock is single factor grey and not split for recessive pied:
50% cinnamon grey green
50% cinnamon green

If the hen is split for blue & the cock is single factor grey and not split for recessive pied:
25% cinnamon grey green
25% cinnamon green
25% cinnamon blue
25% cinnamon grey
All chicks will be split for recessive pied and all the green & grey green chicks will be split for blue
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Cinnamon Opaline Grey-Green Hen X WF Cinnamon Grey Cock
If the hen is not split for blue, the cock is not split for opaline and the grey is single factor in both cases:
50% cinnamon single factor grey green
25% cinnamon double factor grey green
25% cinnamon green

If the hen IS split for blue, the cock is not split for opaline and the grey is single factor in both cases:
25% cinnamon single factor grey green
25% cinnamon single factor grey
12.5% cinnamon double factor grey green
12.5% cinnamon double factor grey
12.5% cinnamon green
12.5% cinnamon blue
All the green or grey green chicks will be split for blue and all the males will be split for opaline
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Normal Violet/Sky Blue Hen X Cinnamon Opaline Light Green Cock.
If the cock is not split for blue:
50% cinnamon opaline light green females
50% normal light green males split for opaline & cinnamon

If the cock is split for blue:
25% cinnamon opaline light green females
25% normal light green males split for opaline & cinnamon
12.5% cinnamon opaline sky blue females
12.5% cinnamon opaline violet sky blue females
12.5% normal sky blue males split for opaline & cinnamon
12.5% violet sky blue males split for opaline & cinnamon
All the green birds will be split for blue and half of them will be masking violet
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WOW. Thankyou so much, both of you. I can't wait until I get some of these chicks out. Kudos to both. Karma also
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1 more questions.What hen would I need to put to this cock ( YF Blue Spangle) to get a YF Blue Cinnamon Spangle?
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