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Old 01-26-2010, 09:45 PM
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Well, I've had Charlie for a year, and there is one thing that has been bugging me. I don't know what colour Charlie's dad is/was.

If I showed you pictures of what Charlie's mother and sister looked like, along with what Charlie looks like, would that help?

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Charlie looks like this:

[IMG]https://www.****************/v_mauve3.jpg[/IMG]

Charlie's sister looked like this:



Charlie's mother looked like this:

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wow that is one confusing family tree
I'm sorry I'm no help, but hopefully Nev will come along and help you out
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Hm. I'm confused as to how Charlie turned out to be mauve with a sky blue parent. His dad must've been either recessive pied or split for recessive pied (if the mom was as well) though, I think.
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im also confused about how he is mauve... maybe he is actually grey factor or something if that even exists .
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Well from your signature, he looks grey. His mum would be a Skyblue Spangle split for Rec Pied, and his sister a Cobalt Recessive Pied. That would mean his father would have to have been a Grey (with zero or one dark factors) Recessive Pied. That's my guess.
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hi there,

he does look mauve to me too, but that wouldn't be possible if the mother is skyblue...but then the picture of the skyblue is a male so....

the sister has an iris ring so i think it is a lightly marked dominant pied. in which case the father would have been a blue (cobalt or mauve) dominant pied.
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Was Charlie bred in an aviary with other birds?
Is that a picture of Charlie or just a bird that looks like him?

The picture that looks like Charlie is of a mauve male and the male bird that you say looks like his mother is sky blue. It is not possible for a sky blue to be a parent of a mauve. The other bird that looks like his sister is a dominant pied sky blue male so one of his parents would have to be a dominant pied. If the sister was a recessive pied the gene may not have shown in either of the parents. To get sky blue & mauve in the same clutch both parents would need to have one dark factor, sky blue has no dark factor

Sometimes birds look very similar and a slight variation in the shade or the wing pattern may not be noticed if you are not very experienced
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Was Charlie bred in an aviary with other birds?
Is that a picture of Charlie or just a bird that looks like him?

The picture that looks like Charlie is of a mauve male and the male bird that you say looks like his mother is sky blue. It is not possible for a sky blue to be a parent of a mauve. The other bird that looks like his sister is a dominant pied sky blue male so one of his parents would have to be a dominant pied. If the sister was a recessive pied the gene may not have shown in either of the parents. To get sky blue & mauve in the same clutch both parents would need to have one dark factor, sky blue has no dark factor

Sometimes birds look very similar and a slight variation in the shade or the wing pattern may not be noticed if you are not very experienced
Yes, Charlie was bred in an aviary with other birds (canaries, cockatiels, finches and quail).
The picture I posted looks just like Charlie.

Thanks for your help!
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