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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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I can post photos of some of mine. But in your search you will learn that mutations and colors in not as easy as it looks, that's why you see different opinions. When you look at a bird you cannot always tell exactly what it is, certain colors can be well hidden such as violet. Alot of times in a photo they look so much different than in person. Guthwulf and Nev are our experts on this here.

This one here is prob skyblue under, but also violet grey. Hard to tell in the photo, but she has violet on her and a greyish cast.


This is a yf violet spangle opaline - base color, not sure


Here's a great place to start learning about mutations
https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#blackface

Hi again Teasha - thanks for posting your birds - they're both very pretty and I agree very hard to determine for sure their colors. I have been to budgieplace a lot, and appreciate the referral. I'm not just beginning to learn about mutations, but rather fine tune my knowledge. I'm fascinated with all bird genetics and spend hours studying what makes what, etc. Budgie genes are FAR more complicated though than any other birds I have studied (cockatiels, parrotlets, lovebirds). The yellowface part was set up (genetically speaking by humans) ridiculously backwards, causing much confusion I think, but anyway - it's great to know there are other genetic enthusiasts here! I may have to post more often!


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Old 05-18-2010, 12:35 AM
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hi there,

i agree with nev, violet grey especially if her tail is greyish like her cheek patch. my first thought was opaline mauve but the cheek patch did not seem right.
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I stand by mauve. Reason being I have sky blue violets, cobalt violets (often called visual violets) and I have bred a violet grey and your bird looks like none of those. Also the body colour of your bird is blotchy/patchy - typical with mauves and olive greens and partly the reason these birds are not exhibited in budgie shows.

I have a mauve in the nest now, it is possibly a violet mauve as its parents are both YF1 single factor violet cobalts. I will wait until it feathers up.

Unfortunately your bird is an opaline. Were it not opaline this would be a simple colour to figure out. In a violet grey you get violet cheek patches but a pure black tail so it is quite simple to see - as a chick even expert breeders and judges told me I had a mauve bird but its parents were a YF1 SF violet cobalt cock and a YF2 light grey hen so it could not have been a mauve and it was the tail that eventually swayed everyone. In opaline birds, the pure colour of the tail is lost, you end up with mostly white which spreads out from the quill and then you get a black edging regardless of dark or violet factor.

Do you know the parentage of this bird?
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will be interesting to see your chick if it is a violet mauve dean.

i think sometimes the only way to be sure with these tricky colours is if they are bred from...
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I have a mauve in the nest now, it is possibly a violet mauve as its parents are both YF1 single factor violet cobalts. I will wait until it feathers up.

Ssoosososoooooo what did your chick end up being?? Would love to see photos!!

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