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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 06-20-2010, 10:37 PM
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I love spangles! I have seen a lot of pics here on the forum and my faves by far are the spangles.
Now whenever I go to a pet store, I look for spangles, though I can't bring any home right now.
I think my recessive pied is spangle, based on the few markings he has, but I can't be sure. Is there an expert out there who knows if recessive pieds can be spangle too?
If so, and if he is, I may want to breed him next year.


I will take a better picture tomorrow when I uncover them.

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Spangle is dominant so if it doesn't show then no he's not. I'm wondering if the one on left is greywing or dilute? Not sure...
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A budgie can be both recessive pied and spangle but from what can be seen in the picture your recessive pied does not look spangle
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Here are a couple of pictures with Meier's markings
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and a shot of Jehan for fun
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Yes the yellow one looks like a spangle. His wings look like my Mika's and she is a recessive pied spangle
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Yay!
That's what I was hoping to hear. So if spangle is dominant, there is a chance that some of his offspring might be spangles.
Iplan to study up this year and read all of the breeding journals I have time for to prepare for possible baby budgies next summer.
My poor husband!
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it is very hard to tell with so few markings, but i would have guessed not a spangle. if you breed and get spangle chicks then you will know for sure.
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I breed a lot of recessive pieds and spangles and I don't think your pied is spangled. As Toni said breeding is the only way to be sure

Here are couple of photos of recessive pied spangles



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Thank you everyone. He does have very few markings, so I guess the breeding will be the final say.
If spangle is dominant, why isn't it more common? I rarely see them for sale.
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not sure about where you are, but there are plenty of spangles in new zealand!
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