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Old 06-28-2010, 08:03 PM
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Last but not least we have a big boy without a tail! Hehehe! I didn't let that detract from his amazing colors. In person, without the camera flash he's just simply beautiful with all his shades of blue!

My guess here is a Skyblue YF2 SF Violet. How close am I without a tail to use to help me out!? Oh and he's got the cute little crest thing too!










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Old 06-29-2010, 03:43 AM
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YF2 skyblue normal (not including any possible crest). No violet
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YF2 skyblue normal (not including any possible crest). No violet

I have to respectfully disagree on the blue color on this one, Guthwulf. I have skyblues and with flash they reflect a totally different color of blue. There is a darker color, whether it is a dark factor, or a violet factor I don't know, but something is causing his skyblue to be darker than my other skyblues.



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i would say skyblue too, it seems to light for a cobalt even though it looks darker than your other skyblue. this is about the shade i would expect to see on a skyblue but photos are always tricky so it is worth going on what you can see in person.

does it look significantly darker than you other skyblues in reality?
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The brightness is very dependent on flashing. If you put it next to a sky blue and its darker then sure, call it a violet sky. Im just saying I didnt 'see' any violet. The thing about violet is it almost never shows up properly on picture so we can only call it as we see it You are more than welcome to disagree with us lol, we arent perfect and sometimes I only quickly look at a picture and had I taken a few more seconds would have realised I was missing something or didnt look right the first time and called it wrong
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i would say skyblue too, it seems to light for a cobalt even though it looks darker than your other skyblue. this is about the shade i would expect to see on a skyblue but photos are always tricky so it is worth going on what you can see in person.

does it look significantly darker than you other skyblues in reality?

Hi Tonic - thanks for your reply. Yes he looks different in person than my other skyblues. I took some natural light photos this morning to send along for further analysis.

You could be right - Guthwulf too - but I know he looks visually very different from my other "normal" skyblues.

Here we have the new bird and a YF2 Skyblue Opaline in the background. I know opalines will lighten body color some, but he was sitting there so I included him in the shot for comparison. I took a quick shot of the YF2 Skyblue Opaline (in focus) too.







Here is a picture of one of my normal skyblues (non-opaline), and following it will be the new bird also taken today under the same lighting conditions:





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The brightness is very dependent on flashing. If you put it next to a sky blue and its darker then sure, call it a violet sky. Im just saying I didnt 'see' any violet. The thing about violet is it almost never shows up properly on picture so we can only call it as we see it You are more than welcome to disagree with us lol, we arent perfect and sometimes I only quickly look at a picture and had I taken a few more seconds would have realised I was missing something or didnt look right the first time and called it wrong


Hi Guthwulf - I always appreciate your opinion, and I truly want you to know I disagree but with total respect to your opinion. I am not challenging you, but rather attempting to inspire further conversation and learning on my part.

I'm almost always wrong when I start poking around at why something is the way it is when it doesn't make sense to me, so I'm always prepared to be wrong and to learn something. I realize no one is perfect and quite honestly, the non-perfect experts I value quite a lot because they're approachable and therefore the best teachers on the planet.

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A crested yellowface type II sky blue violet? That's my best guess. It could be some kind of mix of sky blue and violet.
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He looks cobalt to me - yellow face type 1
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hmmmm, so it looks skyblue in the first pictures but very much cobalt in the last ones.

i imagine the natural light pictures are most accurate... but you will have to decide according to what you see in front of you.
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