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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 07-13-2010, 11:07 AM
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Question Rainbow Budgies?

It came to my attention about the combinations needed to
"make" rainbow budgies. After research tonight I have it in
my head that it is possibly my flock could possibly be in the'running for such a thing.

Correct me if I am wrong, But I think Zafu & George may
possibly bring these statistics to show. Heres some pictures:

George: Male, Clearwing, DP, Mauve.
Zafu: Hen, clearwing?, YF, Skyblue, Spangle








Here are Close up's of the flight wing feathers.
George:




Zafu:





From my recent understanding, you need either:

Yellowface Clearwing Blue/Opaline cock
Clearwing Blue hen

Opaline Whitewingnbsp:Blue cock
Yellowface Clearwing Blue hen

Yellowface Blue/Opaline cock
Clearwing Blue hen

Clearwing Blue/Opaline cock
Yellowface Blue/Clearwing hen.

Also, does Zafu and Artek fit the bill as a pair if mutation is
Artek: Male, Opaline, || Hopefully split blue, not sure about yellowface.

Artek also has like 2-3 yellow splodges on his belly,
and the second pic, his wings also look clearwing/whitewing





Just wodering on Combo's, what you think and percentages.
Im sure everyone will find this useful, especially pictures.

Thanks.

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A rainbow is a bird that is opaline blue series yellow face type two clearwing. Now to produce a rainbow you need both parents to be clearwing or split for clearwing. You need a male that is opaline. You also need both parents to be blue or carry blue. and last but not least you need one of the parents to be yellow face type two it doesn't matter what one.

Looking at your birds it doesn't seem like you have any clearwings. Clearwing is when the pattern on the wings is very faint grey and the body color is bright. It is very hard to determine what is fullcolor grey wing and what's clearwing. I would ask nev how you can tell the difference.

George is a mauve clear fight
Zafu is a sky blue yellow face type two spangle
Artek is a opaline light green dominant pied

I have two rainbows but they are also dominant pied so ignore the clear feathers on the tips of there wings and that's what a rainbow looks like. Hope this helps.



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George is a Clearflight pied not a clearwing
Zafu is a type 1 yellow face spangle sky blue. Her wings are lighter than many spangles but she is not a clearwing
They would have some beautiful chicks but they are not the right mutations to produce a rainbow budgie

Artec is an opaline dominant pied light green and Zafu is a spangle sky blue

A rainbow as defined by the World Budgerigar Organization is a yellow faced blue series opaline clearwing (whitewing). Clearwing is a recessive mutation that is similar to greywing. Originally their wings had very faint markings but unfortunately most modern clearwings have grey markings. Budgies that are just as beautiful as classic rainbows can be produced by combining opaline, spangle & yellow face
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Thankyou that is very helpful.
So basically Zafu and George may produce
quite pretty looking bubs, similar looking to rainbows?
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Sorry to steal the thread for a minute but.....Is this a rainbow?

Not the best pictures, but she has pale yellow spots on MOST of her white parts as well.

Feel free to send me an answer via private message. I'd be thrilled if she was.
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Sorry to steal the thread for a minute but.....Is this a rainbow?

Not the best pictures, but she has pale yellow spots on MOST of her white parts as well.

Feel free to send me an answer via private message. I'd be thrilled if she was.
afraid not, well not officailly anyway... though she is plenty colourful!

she is a yellowface opaline pied (either clearflight or dominant pied) so is missing the clearwing variety...
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Thankyou that is very helpful.
So basically Zafu and George may produce
quite pretty looking bubs, similar looking to rainbows?
yes, they could well produce some lovely rainbow looking babies.
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To make a rainbow:
Both parents need to be clearwing or split for clearwing.
You need a male that is opaline.
You also need both parents to be blue or carry blue.
You need one of the parents to be yellow face type2.

Whitewing Blue SPLIT Opaline cock
Yellowface2 Blue/Whitewing hen.
.... can hens be split for whitewing?
I thought tey had to show it.
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clearwing is a normal (autosomal) recessive gene, so both sexes can be split for it.
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Ok I have some understanding of this.
I know pictures help everyone here Including me.
also, can a male clearwing also SHOW opaline, or will he be split for?
So this is what I gather, of what is needed for rainbow babies. ^_^

Male Blue series Clearwing /Split opaline





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A female Blue series Yellow Face 2 Clearwing. Exact colour this pic 1 ? (is male i know)


Wings to dark?


and this


Because I know "Grey wings" are diluted in body colour where
clearwing/whitewing is bright in bodycolour with diluted colour on wings.

Any comments? Right or wrongs I love learning
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