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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:27 AM
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Could percy be a clearflight pied?

Clearwing
Any color budgie with white wings. First recorded in the 1930s in Australia. No wing markings - only ground color. (yellow or white wings with normal blue or green body)
Clearwings are a bird of any color, but the body color and cheek markings should be as dark and as close to normal as possible while the wings are as light and as close to pure white or yellow as possible. Very few clearwings have truly "clear" wings. Most have at least a tinge of light grey.


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Old 07-16-2010, 10:31 AM
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I do not see any iris ring which would make him a recessive pied
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Old 07-16-2010, 10:47 AM
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I do not see any iris ring which would make him a recessive pied
Hes only a baby, Im talking like 5-6 weeks old or something.
If he produces an Iris, is it possibly he is a clearwing, considering no markings.. except those 4 tiny spots??
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Hes only a baby, Im talking like 5-6 weeks old or something.
If he produces an Iris, is it possibly he is a clearwing, considering no markings.. except those 4 tiny spots??
If his iris lightens he will be a double factor dominant pied , i still favour recessive but let us both wait and see Teegzy
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My Nicky is a clear flight pied. He's the handsome guy on the left.
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hi there,

there is some confusion.... you are asking about clearflight pied, like nicky above, but the description you have added is for clearwing, a completely different non-pied variety.

your bird is neither... he is either a df dominant pied or a recessive pied as barrie said.
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As has already been said: He is either a double factor dominant pied or a recessive pied. I think that recessive pied is more likely because the only patches of colour he has are on the lower part of his body
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As has already been said: He is either a double factor dominant pied or a recessive pied. I think that recessive pied is more likely because the only patches of colour he has are on the lower part of his body
Nev, I am asking again as someone actually said that he
may actually be a clearwing, due to how he looks. So I thought
I woudl bring it to attention to get a clear answer. I want to
know depper how mutations work, so I was wondering if its
possible to get a clearWING or clearFLIGHT even if he is
a recessive or dominant pied. Just trying to learn, sorry.
Recessive pied sounds good, I will wait and see.

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hi there,

there is some confusion.... you are asking about clearflight pied, like nicky above, but the description you have added is for clearwing, a completely different non-pied variety.

your bird is neither... he is either a df dominant pied or a recessive pied as barrie said.
Just curious, I know clear flight is what my George is, only
white flight feathers, and clearwing is something different
again, with the whole wing looking diluted in colour & white
or greyish.

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If his iris lightens he will be a double factor dominant pied , i still favour recessive but let us both wait and see Teegzy
Thanks Barrie, I guess time will tell. Just curious as someone
on another thread brought it up. I was trying to learn more,
as in, can a DF DP have Clearflight also in mutation?
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most varieties can combine, so yes you can get a clearflight pied and a clearwing or a df dp and a clearflight. i imagine the combination pieds would be difficult to distinguish without breeding, but nev is very good at recognising them.

i very much doubt your guy is a clearwing as well as a pied as the markings look normal coloured, if he was a clearwing they would be pale grey.
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Once again Toni has said it all. The few markings that it has would be very pale if it was a clearwing as well
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