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Question Dark eyes clears

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I was just wondering if it is possible for a dark eyed clear to (once been through their first two molts), to end up with some darkish markings on their tail and flight feathers?

My hen, 7 months old now has over time developed these markings through her two molts. I didn't think this was possible as the name says "clear" so maybe she has a little something else?

She hasn't developed irises and is pure white minus the flight and tail feathers being dark now.

So, is this possible or not? I can post a photo if needed.

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I don't think it is possible. Some mutational pieds do loose their marking to become almost clear but It has to be pure white with black eyes to be a dark eyed cear and the tail feathers indicate that it is not. Normally it is either pure yellow or pure white not any other colour. Also usually dark eyed clears, their colour is always pure and after 2 molt I think you have the pied that almost become a dark eyed clear but does not.

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photos would be good...
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A DEC will always be solid. You could have a Double Factor Spangle masking recessive (credit: Nev), and that would account for it being a solid color, and then getting some color? I'm not sure on that, but I do know that DEC will never get color other than their base (yellow or white), unless they are yellow based, and they will have white cheek patches.
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Any clear bird, including albino, lutino, double factor spangle or dark eyed clear, may show some suffusion of colour which may change with subsequent moults. This suffusion is just a hint of colour not definite markings. If your bird has definite dark markings then probably the mutation has been assessed incorrectly

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Here's two photos of her (with some of the others ).





Thanks everyone for your help!
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i am not seeing any actual markings on her so would say she is a dec still!
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I can see the grey you are talking about Is it possible she got the tips of her tail and wings on something such as newspaper?
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I can see the grey you are talking about Is it possible she got the tips of her tail and wings on something such as newspaper?
Actually, yes. I hadn't thought of that! I use newspaper on their favourite play areas (such as on top of a wall unit). She is deffinately a DEC, which is why I was getting confused about the colouring!

LOL, thanks so much!
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Actually, yes. I hadn't thought of that! I use newspaper on their favourite play areas (such as on top of a wall unit). She is deffinately a DEC, which is why I was getting confused about the colouring!

LOL, thanks so much!
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