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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Question Tourquoise?

I have recently rehomed a budgie form somebody who didn't want him because he wasn't hand tame! he is going to go in an avairy with another budgie of exactly the same colouring which is not a very common one appartently. I am wondering what the mutation is known as.

They have a yellow head, Dark wing markings (Like most "wild" ones), He is a green at the top and it then goes dow to a blue colour by his vent with the main part of hsi chest being a tourquoise colour? I ahve one hen (Old exhebition one form a previous owner) and this one. I want to put them together...What am i likely to get from them?

Also... The hen previsouly had chicks which were Prize and Sir (Previsou photos shown on other threads of mine) They were much more of a bLue/tourquoise than a green but still had a lovely yellow head like mum and thier dad was a std mid blue?

Looking forward to your advice. Will try to get some photos of Alfie (Elf for short!) tomororw if you want them to help you out as i know my descritions are not too good.
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PIcs would be great of the front sides and back
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they sound like yellow face type 2 blue normals. however without a photo i am guessing...

yellow faces are pretty common, and very attractive! the yellow spreads down the body as they moult (turning blue into green) so young ones have less green on them than older ones.
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Ok... I had a nurses meeting tonight and Tomorrow i am late night so I will try to get them to you by the week-end as i am desperate to know their "technical" type/mutations and what i could possibly get from them (Maybe...) Thanks again.
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Yellowface comes in to 4 different mutations. Assuming your bird sounds like a YF2, by putting the two birds together, you will get double factor YF2 chicks. So the bird will appear normal coloured, eg sky blue, but they will have a yellow face.

YF II: shows a distinct lighter yellow suffusion throught the body colour but with a lighter yellow face colour. The blue body colour is turned a distinctive aqua colour due to the suffusion of yellow through the body colour.

Double Factor YF II : No suffusion thorugh body, with a light butter coloured face.

YF I: Yellow restricted to the face area and little suffusion of the yellow colour into the body colour.

Double Factor YF I: Completley white faced bird, looks normal.

Hope I helped! Can't wait for some pictures.
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Assuming your bird sounds like a YF2, by putting the two birds together, you will get double factor YF2 chicks
If 2 single factor yellow face birds of the same yellow face type are mated together only 25% of the chicks will be double factor yellow face. 50% will be single factor yellow face & the other 25% will be normal white face.

If the two birds are different types of yellow face there will be no double factor yellow face chicks. There will be some of each type some with both types and some normals

There are 3 different types of yellow face: type 1, type 2 & golden face. Double factor type ones are indistinguishable from normals but they will breed yellow face chicks. Double factors of the other two types have lighter yellow which spreads less than the single factor birds
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If 2 single factor yellow face birds of the same yellow face type are mated together only 25% of the chicks will be double factor yellow face. 50% will be single factor yellow face & the other 25% will be normal white face. Yes, but some percentage (25% ) of the chicks will be DF YF.
If the two birds are different types of yellow face there will be no double factor yellow face chicks. There will be some of each type some with both types and some normals

There are 3 different types of yellow face: type 1, type 2 & golden face. Double factor type ones are indistinguishable from normals but they will breed yellow face chicks. Double factors of the other two types have lighter yellow which spreads less than the single factor birds
Is Goldenface classed as a yellowface variety? I thought just type one and two were? Yellowface genetics always make make head hurt

Pictures would help us, so then we can decide what type they are and what they can produce
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Is Goldenface classed as a yellowface variety? I thought just type one and two were? Yellowface genetics always make make head hurt
golden face, yf1 and yf2 are three separate varieties caused by separate genes. but they are often discussed together due to their similar look - all produce yellow faced blue birds.
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Thanks for that!! Amazingly i followed it all really well!!! (I usually fall when it comes to things like that!). Had a busy day at work today so i Promise i will get pictures to you tomorrow!
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OK, So here it goes. Here are a few photos of the Female, The male looks nearly identicle to her but have not had them side by side yet! I hope this helps in your detective work to find out the mutation!

The first Photo includes a couple of my other birds. Turqs is on the far right.

I am also afraid you might have to turn your head for some of them because I am unsure as to how to rotate them on here before uploading them! I am not very technical like that yet...
Thanks again
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