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Old 10-06-2010, 02:57 AM
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Toby have been with me for 4 months since I captured him from the wild on 31May2010. He is now the casanova for each of my flock. Every budgie likes to bond with him.

Now the question. Is he an opaline or a normal ?


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He is a normal Although his wing markings are making me wonder if he is possibly split opaline.
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Old 10-06-2010, 03:35 AM
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He is a normal Although his wing markings are making me wonder if he is possibly split opaline.
Now I get it. Thanks, Squeak_Crumble. Long time no see.
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Hi Squeak! All of my budgies have those markings, three of which are definitely not split opaline.
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Hi Squeak! All of my budgies have those markings, three of which are definitely not split opaline.
Are you saying those are hens or you have bred them ?
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Now I get it. Thanks, Squeak_Crumble. Long time no see.
Very Long Time! I explained in my answer below.

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Hi Squeak! All of my budgies have those markings, three of which are definitely not split opaline.
Do you know what marking I am talking about?

A tell tale sign of an opaline budgie is a small patch on their flight feathers. After I bred a bird that look half normal and half opaline, Me and my club came to the conclusion that it was a horribly marked opaline ( No V at all, but no flecking) .

If you look at your birds flight feathers, further up near the secondaries ( I think their called) there is almost a finger smudge, on a cinnamon bird it turns up a pale fawn colour, on a normal I would assume a greyish colour or suffused of the body colour. The reason I ams lightly confused about your birds is it appears normal, but has a small patch on it's wing that should make it an opaline. Sometimes birds split for a variety have some of the characteristics of the variety they are split for.

Here is a picture of an opaline, with the bar circled.
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Thanks, Sophie. The trademark patch in the flight feathers of opalines is a tell-tale sign similar to the clear head patches to identify dominant pieds and clearflight pieds. Great explanations by you. The hen is very beautiful, what is her name ?
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Thanks, Sophie. The trademark patch in the flight feathers of opalines is a tell-tale sign similar to the clear head patches to identify dominant pieds and clearflight pieds. Great explanations by you. The hen is very beautiful, what is her name ?
Sorry I couldnt help more. I will try get some pictures of my cinnamon cock with the confusing marking tommorrow

I stopped naming my birds after the first 20 She is one of my few pet-type breeders.
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Hi Squeak! All of my budgies have those markings, three of which are definitely not split opaline.
A lot of mine that are not opaline also have that mark. It doesn't mean anything
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A lot of mine that are not opaline also have that mark. It doesn't mean anything
Toby just a normal and the clear patch on his flight feathers is not an opaline hidden gene, is it corrrect ?
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