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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 10-07-2010, 04:23 PM
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Is it possible to have a half english budgie? Random Q, but Mojo has a puffy head, but not as puffy as some English birds, and he has that kinda small grumpy eye thing that English budgies have...just curious

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I think it is, That is a good question (better ask someone better at mutations than me, You got me curious now ) But I think it is possible (post a pic of your bird and we could tell you if it is english or no if that is possible)
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Yep, it's possible.
Maybe a post a picture?
Some regular budgies, just like being poofy, but not necessarily English/ half english.
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I'm sure you gonna hear this answer at least several times, so I might as well start it.. There is no DNA difference.. they are really the same bird, just bred to be larger and have the"puffy" look and the grumpy eye..lol... It has been done for a long time, but you could actually breed you own English budgies if you had the time to raise a lot of generations, and only breed the large puffy head birds.. They all started down under, some just kept the accent and got an attitude.. lol... I am not trying to make this sound demeaning, but its like asking if a tall nationality of people could breed with a short nationality...
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It is really quite simple. You breed an show bird with a pet type. That then reuslts in a bird that is "half-exhibition" and "half-pet-type".

As mentioned above, show birds actually are budgies, they are just bred to enhance certain points in of their image. The whole sport of exhibiting budgerigars is when you put birds together, to get the "ideal" budgerigar. Eg. If you have a bird with a big blow )head) but a small body, and you put it to a bird with a small head and big body, you hope to get a bird witha a big head and body.

Because of this, your bird may just be a smaller show bird, or a larger sized pet bird. It's possible he may of had some show gene's mixed into him a generation or so ago, so he may display a bigger head, or a bigger bodied bird compared to a pet bird.
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its helped alot! Mojo is alot younger than Jojo, Jojo I got from a pet shop 4 years ago, and Mojo I bought from an aviary, but Mojo looks bigger than Jojo, he has a longer er...face feathers if that makes sense (im a total newbie when it comes to mutations!), slighly puffier head and the moody eyes...lemme find a pic...Mojos hard to take pics of as his white is so white that the pics always come out like over exposed so to speak...

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Its eyeopening all the replies you guys have put down, I dont know anything about breeding budgies, or how they do show birds, or anything as I never intend to breed myself (although If i had the time and money I would love to), or show them, theyre ma little baby boys hehe
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If I may add my .02 to this....

If you are planning on breeding pet birds “American budgies”/”Wild type budgies” and you are acquiring hen stock from pet shops you will NEED English cocks. WHY? The English stock will start to repair the damage done by Bird Mill Breeding which over bred and under fed stock shrinks offspring size. This will not be an over night correction. Look it’s taken exhibition breeders 200 years (from stock collected from the wild) to change the Exhibition budgies’s looks to what they are today. But if you keep adding English to each generation of breeding hens you will start to see a difference.

Why use English cocks? Exhibition breeders don’t sell there really good hens. Nice cocks are way more available AND they keep their fertility.
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