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As many times as I try to wrap my head around this, I come back confused. Let's see if I'm right.

Opaline is sexlinked so only males can be split for it. So if I have a normal cock with a hen and I get an opaline baby that means the cock is split for opaline.

And the baby would be a HEN?

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That is correct
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Sounds like bio 30 all over again!
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YAY! I'm pretty sure my first baby is a girl then! I was hoping for a couple hens to keep!
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You got it. A hen can never be split for opaline.
She can not be split for cinnamon either, but that's another thread.
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Ok - I get that and if.................

A cock bird is Opaline and the hen is normal - any chick hatched who is opaline is a hen and any males born to that pair will be split for opaline?

Is that right?

If so - I may have another question
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Ok - I get that and if.................

A cock bird is Opaline and the hen is normal - any chick hatched who is opaline is a hen and any males born to that pair will be split for opaline?

Is that right?

If so - I may have another question
Hmm a opaline cock and normal hen = opaline hens. I agree.

It is sexlinked like cinnamon and in my research: Hens will pass their cinnamon gene on to all sons and none of their daughters. Also: For a cock to be split cinnamon either its father was a cinnamon and its mother a normal, or the mother was a cinnamon and the father was normal (or split cinnamon). If the cock birds mother in this case was cinnamon he is definately split for it, which also explains why the hen you have is cinnamon

So based on that the cock chicks would all be split opaline.

To elaborate: Just trying to think this out out load. If it was a normal cock and opaline hen. The hen would pass on the opaline gene to all her sons. But they will be split for it right?





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I say they would be split for it.

So (hoping experts come in) if:

Opaline is sexlinked so only males can be split for it. So if I have a normal cock with a hen and I get an opaline baby that means the cock is split for opaline.

And the baby would be a HEN?
Answer - Yes


You got it. A hen can never be split for opaline.

A cock bird is Opaline and the hen is normal - any chick hatched who is opaline is a hen and any males born to that pair will be split for opaline?
Answer Yes


It is sexlinked like cinnamon and in my research: Hens will pass their cinnamon gene on to all sons and none of their daughters. Also: For a cock to be split cinnamon either its father was a cinnamon and its mother a normal, or the mother was a cinnamon and the father was normal (or split cinnamon). If the cock birds mother in this case was cinnamon he is definately split for it, which also explains why the hen you have is cinnamon

So based on that the cock chicks would all be split opaline.

To elaborate: Just trying to think this out out load. If it was a normal cock and opaline hen. The hen would pass on the opaline gene to all her sons. But they will be split for it right -
Answer - I guess so


Right then - question time......... How do we get Opaline Cock birds?
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I say they would be split for it.

So (hoping experts come in) if:

Opaline is sexlinked so only males can be split for it. So if I have a normal cock with a hen and I get an opaline baby that means the cock is split for opaline.

And the baby would be a HEN?
Answer - Yes


You got it. A hen can never be split for opaline.

A cock bird is Opaline and the hen is normal - any chick hatched who is opaline is a hen and any males born to that pair will be split for opaline?
Answer Yes


It is sexlinked like cinnamon and in my research: Hens will pass their cinnamon gene on to all sons and none of their daughters. Also: For a cock to be split cinnamon either its father was a cinnamon and its mother a normal, or the mother was a cinnamon and the father was normal (or split cinnamon). If the cock birds mother in this case was cinnamon he is definately split for it, which also explains why the hen you have is cinnamon

So based on that the cock chicks would all be split opaline.

To elaborate: Just trying to think this out out load. If it was a normal cock and opaline hen. The hen would pass on the opaline gene to all her sons. But they will be split for it right -
Answer - I guess so


Right then - question time......... How do we get Opaline Cock birds?
From an opaline hen. ? The opaline hen must pass it on to her sons not in hidden form. We need an expert because now I'm confused!
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male opalines have two copies of the gene, one from each parent.

so you need an opaline hen and either an opaline or split cock to get male opalines.
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