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I'd like to know what his color is, I have no clue on the number of dark factors he has, he's got me all confused. Any ideas? I'm thinking dark green?

His parents are a Violet greygreen opaline cock and an albino hen masking opaline.
Also in the clutch were a grey, a greygreen and a skyblue violet, all opaline males.











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Opaline is sex linked, well I'm pretty sure. Other than that, not sure.
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Opaline is sex linked, well I'm pretty sure. Other than that, not sure.
Yes but both his parents are opaline
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When I compare him to these pictures https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#darkfactor he looks dark green, and when I look at the left picture here https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#greyfactor he looks grey, too. He also looks opaline https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#opaline. Consequently, I'm guessing he's opaline normal dark green-grey.

What do the experts say?

(By the way, is it proper to describe a budgie as "opaline normal" to distinguish him from another opaline-mixed mutation, such as "opaline dominant pied"? )

He's gorgeous! I love the subtle mottling.
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When I compare him to these pictures https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#darkfactor he looks dark green, and when I look at the left picture here https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#greyfactor he looks grey, too. He also looks opaline https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#opaline. Consequently, I'm guessing he's opaline normal dark green-grey.

What do the experts say?

(By the way, is it proper to describe a budgie as "opaline normal" to distinguish him from another opaline-mixed mutation, such as "opaline dominant pied"? )

He's gorgeous! I love the subtle mottling.
Yes he is an opaline, just wondering if he is either a dark green, an olive or a dark green violet. I asked this question before and they all mostly agreed on dark green violet but I'm not sure, I'd like to be sure so I can write it down on my records.

I think it is correct to just call him an "opaline" since "normal" is a complete different mutation. By the way he can't be a grey green because his tail feathers are blue, a greygreen has black tail feathers. He has a greygreen brother
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Yes but both his parents are opaline
What I mean is, I think opaline is sexlinked so his mom couldn't be split for it.... What do you mean by masking???
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Yes he is an opaline, just wondering if he is either a dark green, an olive or a dark green violet. I asked this question before and they all mostly agreed on dark green violet but I'm not sure, I'd like to be sure so I can write it down on my records.

I think it is correct to just call him an "opaline" since "normal" is a complete different mutation. By the way he can't be a grey green because his tail feathers are blue, a greygreen has black tail feathers. He has a greygreen brother
Ahhhhhhhhh. Well, as you can see, I'm not very good as discerning violets and greys.
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What I mean is, I think opaline is sexlinked so his mom couldn't be split for it.... What do you mean by masking???
Masking and split are two different things.

The hen is an albino which hides or masks other mutations so they aren't visible but doesn't mean they aren't there. So my hen is an opaline but the ino gene is masking it.

Don't know if that makes sense?
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Masking and split are two different things.

The hen is an albino which hides or masks other mutations so they aren't visible but doesn't mean they aren't there. So my hen is an opaline but the ino gene is masking it.

Don't know if that makes sense?
Perfect sense Wow learned something new. Thanks.
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a grey green would also have grey cheek patches, but I don't really see any olive in him.. I'd say opaline dark green
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