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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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I have 4 new babies ranging from 4-5 weeks.. 2 are lutinos and 2 are a greenish yellow and blue...lol. I was wondering what their color is and what mutation they are... thanks for any help.

The 1st pic is a shot of mom and dad... I was told on here that he is a mauve or a slate ( Barrie thought slate) opaline and the hen is a green dom pied... baby is much diff in color to Mom... he has the dom pied patch but no real belly band.. just a few yellow slotches... his color is sorta a mix of yellow and green with a bluish hue. The other baby is much the same as the one in the pix except he does not have the yellow splotches and his spot on his head is quite small. ( the baby on the handle of the basket is the one in question)


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a few more shots of him.

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the one in Question looks like a Dark green Dominant pied - meaning he/she has 1 Dark factor

the other looks light green dominant pied - meaning no dark factor

Dominant pied and their spots can vary from one bird to the next they're not all going to look the same not even all dom. pieds have a clear band on the belly(of course that is wanted and makes them a good dom pied but that is really mainly for showing not pet or breeding)

https://www.****************/c_darkfactor.html

if you look at the 3 greens there you'll see a light green, dark green then olive green at first I thought your one in question was Olive green but doesn't look dark enough
its not usual for Normal green budgies to have a blue tint/hue to them either
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Thanks atvchick ... the normal green dom pied is his Mom ...to me his color looks like green butter mints...lol His brother is very much the same color.. a nice contrast to Their Mother... their markings are not light enough to be called grey I think but are lighter than either their mother or fathers markings... do these darken as they mature?
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ATV is right. The chick is a dominant pied dark green. It is common for dark green and olive chicks to look bluish on the lower body. The hen is dominant pied light green.

I don't often disagree with Barrie but I think the cock is opaline violet grey
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Thanks atvchick ... the normal green dom pied is his Mom ...to me his color looks like green butter mints...lol His brother is very much the same color.. a nice contrast to Their Mother... their markings are not light enough to be called grey I think but are lighter than either their mother or fathers markings... do these darken as they mature?

The markings usually don't change as they mature Just the body color on most will become more vibrant I guess is a good word for it

an example my first budgie Tweety is a Blue Dominant Pied - he started out really light blue I thought he was Sky blue - but as he got older and by the time he was 1 yr old his blue became a deep dark blue

here he is as a baby just to help explain what i'm trying to say
He's the one on the right and was 4 1/2 months old


this one was taken a couple weeks ago and he's 4 yrs old now - my camera does wash him out some so he's darker in real life but even in this pic you can tell he's a lot darker than the one above Oh please Ignore casper there she's going through a Heavy molt so she looks rough and older than she is - she's actually 4 years old too


and here's a back shot shows his body color a little more closer to his real life color
He's up on the right side - that's his Daughter across from him
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So are his markings still considered normal then?? They are not the sharp black that the others are ... more of a dark charcoal. And your budgie is absolutely gorgeous... his marking edges also became sharper and more defined didn't they.

EDIT: Here is a pic of him beside his dad.... as you can see his markings are a softer almost smudged charcoal look compared to his Dad's darker black ones.

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So are his markings still considered normal then?? They are not the sharp black that the others are ... more of a dark charcoal. And your budgie is absolutely gorgeous... his marking edges also became sharper and more defined didn't they.

EDIT: Here is a pic of him beside his dad.... as you can see his markings are a softer almost smudged charcoal look compared to his Dad's darker black ones.

I think the difference in the markings between dad and son has a lot to do with Dad being Opaline and Blue Based where son is Green based

at least that's what I've noticed between blue and green based birds I think the yellow outline in the green based vs. the white outline in the blue based make them look different

but I only have 2 Green based birds and she's Opaline and the other is a Grey Green Spangle so not much to compare to So i do my comparing at bird fairs/pet shops lOL

I'll have to look through Tweety's pics I don't recall if his markings on his wings ever changed the biggest change other than color that I noticed as he grew up was the clear band on his belly got more prominent or maybe that was just me it just doesn't seem as much of the blue runs into the clear band now that he's an adult vs. when he was a baby

and thank you He's my Buddy He's not tame but he comes to the cage front and chatters to me all the time and when he hears his name being called he gets all excited- I think he knows he's my favorite even though I tried not to have a favorite but he was my very 1st bird ever so it was going to happen lol

I've already made it a point that I made sure to make perfectly clear no matter what Tweety goes no where, no matter if the doctor tells me "You have to get rid of every bird you own" or I hit rock bottom and can't have them any more Tweety Goes no where! and I have 1 cockatiel that will go no where he's been through enough hell He'll finish his life right here oh and of course Billy the Quaker stays LOL
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I will try to find a pic of him next to his mom... she is just a normal green dom pied... no fancy markings... but such a brilliant green and rich yellows makes her a beautiful girl too!!
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