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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 06-06-2011, 08:03 PM
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ok so i'm trying to figure out what the different mutations and all that are...I know that my two budgies (on my profile you can see them) are yellow-based, yellow-face

but what i dont understand is the dark factor (DF) and grey-wing and clear-wing mutations and all that...so if some one could help, im just trying to be able to identify my own budgies myself and keep track of them on a family tree maker

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Best website to start learning (its where i started) is www.**************** when it loads scroll down to mutations, and click one of them and start reading about them

but to get you started Dark Factor means the bird has a dark factor - say the bird is sky blue there is no dark factor there That is the normal blue for budgies, then there is cobalt blue it has 1 Dark factor and its a few shades darker than Sky blue, then their is Mauve it has 2 dark factors and its a greyish- blue color ~ Mauve is often confused with Grey - the best way to tell them apart is the Cheek patches - Mauve Budgies have Violet Cheek patches - Grey budgies have Grey (some look silver) Cheek patches

in green series it would be
light green - no dark factor
Dark green - 1 dark factor
Olive - 2 dark factors

if a baby has a dark factor it just means it got it from 1 of if its parents if it has 2 dark factors then both parents gave it a dark factor

Grey wing - is recessive both parents have to carry the gene - either visually or split, or one visual and one split to get any The wing markings are a light grey instead of the normal black The cheek patches are light violet the tail is grey with a blue tinge


clearwings I'm still learning - its harder for me when I don't have them to work with
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ok so i'm trying to figure out what the different mutations and all that are...I know that my two budgies (on my profile you can see them) are yellow-based, yellow-face

but what i dont understand is the dark factor (DF) and grey-wing and clear-wing mutations and all that...so if some one could help, im just trying to be able to identify my own budgies myself and keep track of them on a family tree maker

thx
ATVChick posted a great site for colors and mutations: https://www.****************/colorsguide.html. Each mutation has a link to its genetics.

Barrie has great info, too.
Colors and mutations: https://www.officialbarrieshuttbudger...smutations.htm.
Genetics: https://www.officialbarrieshuttbudger...egenetics2.htm and https://www.officialbarrieshuttbudger...egenetics1.htm (I assume Barrie is quoting "our" Nev90 AKA Neville).

Dark factors: https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#darkfactor
Dilution (including greywing and clearwing): https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#dilution

Your cock bird is a normal light green and your hen is a dominant pied dark(?) green.

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I know that my two budgies (on my profile you can see them) are yellow-based, yellow-face
All yellow based budgies have a yellow face. Unless you know the parents you can't know if they carry the gene for yellow face that shows up in white/blue based budgies.
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you cant really tell in the photo but the hen has very little markings on the top of her wings and almost white flight feathers...so wouldn't that make her a clearflight pied? but she looks like a recessive pied...im so confused with her. BUT i do know that the cock is yellow-based, normal green with 1 dark factor.
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you cant really tell in the photo but the hen has very little markings on the top of her wings and almost white flight feathers...so wouldn't that make her a clearflight pied? but she looks like a recessive pied...im so confused with her. BUT i do know that the cock is yellow-based, normal green with 1 dark factor.
the female is recessive pied and she looks dark green as well - not all of them have markings on the Flight feathers doesn't always mean they're mixed with anything else - you'd know if you bred her to a non pied and got clear flight pied babies though

the male is Dark Green.
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A recessive pied with clearflight would be a DEC so if she's recessive pied she can't be clearflight.
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A recessive pied with clearflight would be a DEC so if she's recessive pied she can't be clearflight.
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ok im starting to pick up on it...so their breeding now (but havent had any babies yet) so their babies would be dark green and might be recessive pied?
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ok im starting to pick up on it...so their breeding now (but havent had any babies yet) so their babies would be dark green and might be recessive pied?

only if your male is split to recessive pied will you get any visually, but if he's not then all the babies will be split to recessive pied
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