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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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If you all like to guess what a bird is here is a good one for you.

In my avatar is a pic of a variety I used to breed about ten years ago and have just scourced some stock to get back into them again. As the pic is a bit small and not the best one I have I have posted another related bird here.


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Old 06-21-2011, 01:14 AM
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It's a budgie ! ! !
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Hmmm that is a very interesting bird!

It doesn't have the cheek patches of a normal, they are blue like of like a greys would be almost. The coloring looks a bit diluted too? The bird in your avatar looks more cinnamon in color on the wings, but with the blue cheek patches too.

I honestly have no idea! I know you mentioned you bred some rare mutations I have never seen in person myself, which one is this? I am very curious
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Is it a brownwing?
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Is it a brownwing?
That's what I was going to guess, too.
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Very pretty budgie is what I say.
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I to was going to say Brown wing

but the markings in the avatar picture is not darker than a cinnamon like it says a brown wing is, and the picture in the thread looks like a normal(marking wise as in they look black not brown or Cinnamon )
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Nobody else gonna have a go?

It is a Darkwing Dilute Light Green. The marking are a very dark brownish grey if you can image that.
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It is a Darkwing Dilute Light Green. The marking are a very dark brownish grey if you can image that.
All I can imagine is that if I saw a budgie with very dark brownish grey markings, I would be confused as to whether it was a greywing or a cinnamon. (And I guess I would be wrong on both counts, lol.)

But there must be other defining features to look for, right?
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All I can imagine is that if I saw a budgie with very dark brownish grey markings, I would be confused as to whether it was a greywing or a cinnamon. (And I guess I would be wrong on both counts, lol.)

But there must be other defining features to look for, right?
First of all the Darkwing is not a full bird mutation it is a factor like Violet, Dark etc. It's effect is on the markings and is best seen on Dilutes. Here is Australia they have been around since the fifies but never recognised for what they were until fairly recently. They went by the name of Australian Clearbodies for a time and were included in the Black Eyed Self-Coloured standard for many years under the terms "Greywing Yellow" and "Greywing White" which only led to the incorrect useage of these terms and thus causing the majority of confusion about today.

Tha DW factor is a marking allele and is only seen on birds with markings below that of a Normal. It is a dominant allele and as such can be had in single and double factor form. On a Normal bird the DW factor will not be seen but will be "masked" so to speak.

The key to identification is that the bird in the pic is a Dilute and all Dilute attributes are evident, the DW allele has only changed the markings. They have been enhanced by the DW allele. A Cinnamon version is similar but with reduced body colour and more Cinnamon markings.
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