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as far as i know Double factor Spangle are either Lutinos or Albinos depending on the base color; how about creaminos, are they also Double factor spangle? I am bit confused, please help me.

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From what I know, DF Spangle is what you get when you breed 2 spangle parents and it cancels out.

They're not lutinos or albinos because they don't have red eyes. Their eyes also develop iris rings which is how you tell that they are not Dark Eyed Clears. They're just normal birds with one body color and usually no other markings on their back/wings.

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From what I know, DF Spangle is what you get when you breed 2 spangle parents and it cancels out.

They're not lutinos or albinos because they don't have red eyes. Their eyes also develop iris rings which is how you tell that they are not Dark Eyed Clears. They're just normal birds with one body color and usually no other markings on their back/wings.

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https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#spangle

Double Factor Spangles are different than Lutinos or Albinos as Double Factor Spangles’ irises lighten normally with age.

Double Factor Spangles are produced from three different mating:
1: SFS x SFS gives 25% DFS
2: SFS x DFS gives 50% DFS
3: DFS x DFS gives 100% DFS
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as far as i know Double factor Spangle are either Lutinos or Albinos depending on the base color; how about creaminos, are they also Double factor spangle? I am bit confused, please help me.
Albinos are white-based with red eyes.
Lutinos are yellow-based with red eyes.
Creaminos are white-based yellow faces (type 1 or type 2) with red eyes.
https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#ino

Similarly, DF spangles can be white-based with black eyes, yellow-based with black eyes or white-based yellow faces (type 1 or type 2) with black eyes. https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#spangle

This hen is a Type 1 yellow face DF spangle. The yellow face has suffused from mask to body.
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thanks a lot dear friends...... so i guess if someone like to Breed Spangle Budgie its better to have Double factor then pair with normal Budgie to get 100% Spangle offspring.
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Double factor spangle has nothing what so ever to do with Lutino or Albino

It's just 2 Spangles mated that makes a DF spangle - means it has no markings and depending on the base color that's the color it'll be Green series will be all yellow blue series will be all white

Double factor spangles have dark eyes(lutinos and albinos have red so that's your first indication they are not a double factor spangle) All 3 have iris rings by the way

Creamino is just another name for a Yellow face type 2 Albino - just means its an albino with a yellow face - the yellow face runs through its body giving it a creamy color
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