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Old 07-10-2011, 09:10 PM
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One of my babies is a yf1 sky blue dominant pied. However, he hasn't a white feather anywhere besides the spot on the back of his head and his flights. He looks like a clearflight. Were I to have bought him in a pet shop, I would've assumed he was a clearflight. Is there a way to differentiate between a poorly marked dominant pied and a clearflight?

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Can we see a picture? That would really help.
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I believe Dominant Pieds have "clear" flight feathers too, so it can definitely be confusing.
Have you checked out this link? https://www.****************/colorsgui...l#dominantpied
It was very helpful for me learning about different mutations/genetics. ^_^
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Dominant pieds do have clear flights, but they also usually have (in my birds' cases) a clear band across their bellies. This one doesn't.

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That's true, but they can also have "broken" bands that don't really look like bands, like it says on that site.
I'm actually trying to figure out myself if my Lemon is a clearflight pied because his new flight feathers coming in are much lighter in color (almost see through) compared to his body feathers.
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That's true, but they can also have "broken" bands that don't really look like bands, like it says on that site.
I'm actually trying to figure out myself if my Lemon is a clearflight pied because his new flight feathers coming in are much lighter in color (almost see through) compared to his body feathers.
Yes, I know. This bird's dad is a dominant pied. 3 ofnits siblings are dominant pied. As is he. My ? remains "Is there a way to tell the difference between a poorly marked dominant pied (like my chick) and clearflights?".
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I have a chick that has a dom pied Mom and a normal violet grey Dad... he has a tiny mark on the back of his head but other than that looks like normal ... he also has clear flights... his brother is a dom pied and his 2 sisters are lutinos.
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With a bird like you have described you can't be sure without breeding. I have bred several dominant pieds that have no clear areas anywhere but the back of the head and the flight feathers
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From your description with out a visual
I'd say a poorly marked Dominant Pied

I had one a while back
Did not even have clear flights - but I got Dominant Pied babies from him- his mate was a spangle and NOT dominant pied(or any other pied)




as a wee baby


the only "pied' mark he had- was this tiny tiny clear spot on the back of his head


This was from their second clutch 1st clutch gave me a normal and a violet spangle(Apollo)





2 pieds, 1 normal and mom
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Thanks Nev. That's what I had figured.

ATV, I know he is a dominant pied. His dad is dominant pied. My question was about telling the difference between the two pieds. I wasn't sure if breeding was the only answer. I must not be making much sense tonight. Hand raising 15 babies has clearly affected my communication abilities.
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