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Old 07-14-2011, 12:44 AM
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I want to breed Petty my male normal, medium green /Split for ino, cinnamon and maybe blue to Cindy my female opaline, yellow face type two, double factor violet, grey maybe split for recessive pied. My goal is to eventually get a lacewings out of my many breeding pairs but what is the percentages of each chicks mutation? I think I can get these mutations out of the pair but I'm not sure of the percentages...

Blues sky blue and cobalt
Greens light green and medium green
Normals
ino females lutino and albino
Cinnamon females
Single factor violets
Grey factors
Males split for opaline, cinnamon, ino
Lacewings yellow and white
Yellow face type two
I think that's it any help will be great!

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Petty's mother Ginger Olive green, cinnamon /split for blue

Petty's father Horus Lutino masking dominant pied /split for blue

Cindy

Cindy's mother Stella Opaline, sky blue, violet

Cindy's father Dusty Opaline, yellow face type two, violet, grey /split for cinnamon and recessive pied

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Your male actually looks Olive green
Your Female is Yellow face sky blue Cinnamon she is not grey Her dad is also not Grey he's Mauve

Grey's have GREY/SILVER Cheek Patches Neither one your calling Grey does. They both have Violet.

Also both Cindy and her dad are type 1 yellow faces not type 2 - Type 2 bleeds into the body color Type 1 does it it stays on the mask, sometimes it'll go on the outer tail feathers and the white parts of the wings (like on a pied)
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Got to question the Olive thing too, also the Greys. Check there cheek patches. are they blue/grey or violet? If Also check tail feathers. Are they black?

Violet cheek patches and blue tail = non grey factored birds.
All grey factored birds will have black tails and bluish/grey cheek patches.

Chance of Lacewings are slim as the Cinnamon was inherited from mum and Ino from dad so chance of cross-over is 3%.

Depending of where the dark factor was inherited from and if birds are split for blue will also give different results as there is linkage between the Green/Blue and dark factor genes.

As for the Yellowface stuff. I say it again. No such thing as Type 1 and Type 2. There are three YF mutants and they are in single and double factor form hence giving 6 visible phenotypes. You birds are Yellowface Mutant 1 in single factor form.
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Cindy's tail feathers are a greyish cinnamon her cheek patches are a silvery violet. Dusty's tail feathers are dark grey and his cheek patches are dark blue violet. Dusty has had grey chicks as well so he does have some sort of grey factor in him. Their yellow face does go through their body color. And Dusty has also had a recessive pied yellow face type two with the yellow going through the body color. I have always been told that a bird with the yellow through their body color is yellow face type two. I'm not really arguing with you both but maybe I just want to learn why you think my birds color mutations are wrong.
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I want to breed Petty my male normal, medium green /Split for ino, cinnamon and maybe blue to Cindy my female opaline, yellow face type two, double factor violet, grey maybe split for recessive pied. My goal is to eventually get a lacewings out of my many breeding pairs but what is the percentages of each chicks mutation? I think I can get these mutations out of the pair but I'm not sure of the percentages...

Blues sky blue and cobalt
Greens light green and medium green
Normals
ino females lutino and albino
Cinnamon females
Single factor violets
Grey factors
Males split for opaline, cinnamon, ino
Lacewings yellow and white
Yellow face type two
I think that's it any help will be great!

Petty

Petty's mother Ginger Olive green, cinnamon /split for blue

Petty's father Horus Lutino masking dominant pied /split for blue

Cindy

Cindy's mother Stella Opaline, sky blue, violet

Cindy's father Dusty Opaline, yellow face type two, violet, grey /split for cinnamon and recessive pied
Beautiful birds, none the less.

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