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RIPbudgies 07-15-2011 09:03 AM

To try and help you I will post a couple of pics. These are of Goldenfaces only.

Father and daughter both in Cobalt. Single factor on left, double factor on right. The hen is still young here and has only moulted once.

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/DSC04631.jpg

A single factor Cobalt baby D.O.B. 24 May 2011. She is also Clearwing.

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...gies/ID456.jpg

The next series of photos are a comparison of single and double factors as babies. They are approx 5-6 weeks of age and both cobalts. In all photos the double factor is on the left and the single factor on the right. The double factor bird is the same one as in the first photo.

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...C/DSC02879.jpg

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...C/DSC02880.jpg

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...C/DSC02882.jpg

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...C/DSC02883.jpg

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...C/DSC02884.jpg

atvchick95 07-15-2011 09:15 AM

Thank you :) Bubblegum and Jasmine both resemble your male in the 1st pic only the body didn't change to that dark of green So I think its safe to say they are both Sky blue Like I thought he was to start with and I knew She was because I've had her since she was born and I know what her feathers looked like from the start :giggle:

your 2nd pic does resemble his "greywing" baby I have right now well the wing color/pattern - mine isn't a yellow face- actually the "greywing" baby was the only one out of 4 who didn't have a yellow face. But since Bubblegum is Golden face and their mom is a Yellow face That was expected :)

and it looks like only the Single Factor Golden face Changes the body color?(by looking at the 1st pic) if so that's another way to tell if a Golden face is single or Double factor right? and by changing the body color I mean significantly where it can really be noticed like in your first picture where your males chest turned a shade of green while your females stayed cobalt blue (where hers is just kinda splotchy 2 toned at the top of her chest but not a significant change in body color like her dad)

The whole "bleeding" or spreading into the body color doesn't bother me at all (I know a lot of sites say its not something the show people want or look for) but since Mine aren't for showing it's perfectly fine with me that it changes their overall look - because since it does on some of mine I got some very Pretty birds who other wise would just look "normal" :)

oh and it would it be safe to say on a Yellow face That Bleeds/spreads into the body and changes the overall look, Would it also make it that shade of green (or similar) on a cobalt blue like it does for the Cobalt Blue Golden face sf?

I probably won't see these yellow face blue babies molt out because I'm not keeping any of them. But their blue is not sky blue, but to me it doesn't really look cobalt either BUT i do think its because they're yellow face. and All of my yellow face budgies have been in the sky blue category so I've never actually seen in person a cobalt yellow face but If I decide to keep one or get one in the future at least then I'd know what to look for.

I know I make all this stuff harder on my self than it needs to be :o but for some reason I over think it all it is nothing for me to go into my birds room pull up a chair and just start looking at them and saying well maybe he's not the mutation I thought he was, or maybe she's this instead of that. Or I go through my records and see x pair had this form of baby and my mind knows how it was made yet I over think it so much i start second guessing my self. But I guess that is natural when most of your stock you have no clue what they're hiding . but Soon that won't be such a problem because I keep at least 1 baby from each breeding season so Eventually I will know ALL the backgrounds to my birds or at least more than half of them lol

sorry for rambling and you have very pretty birds :)

Budgiebud 07-15-2011 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIPbudgies (Post 852638)
To try and help you I will post a couple of pics. These are of Goldenfaces only.

Father and daughter both in Cobalt. Single factor on left, double factor on right. The hen is still young here and has only moulted once.

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...s/DSC04631.jpg

A single factor Cobalt baby D.O.B. 24 May 2011. She is also Clearwing.

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...gies/ID456.jpg

The next series of photos are a comparison of single and double factors as babies. They are approx 5-6 weeks of age and both cobalts. In all photos the double factor is on the left and the single factor on the right. The double factor bird is the same one as in the first photo.

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...C/DSC02879.jpg

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...C/DSC02880.jpg

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...C/DSC02882.jpg

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...C/DSC02883.jpg

https://i359.photobucket.com/albums/o...C/DSC02884.jpg

Great explanation and beautiful pictures. :)

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atvchick95 07-15-2011 09:49 AM

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Grr here I go over thinking again lol I so need to change my name To " I over think things too much" :giggle:

but I was just in the birds room I was taking a pic of one of my English Babies - And I looked over at bubblegum he's actually darker than his pictures make him out to be - in my signature him and Jasmine's "green" are the exact same - in person its not like that his is a whole lot darker, he has the dark green color on his chest mid way down, then it goes into the blue shade then his rump is the same darkish green as the top of his chest then the blue comes in towards the end where the tail comes out And I thought I was going to get the perfect pic to show it - I turned my flash off and everything Then as soon as I aimed my camera at him - it was over He took off to the back of the cage and wouldn't turn back around :/

but attached is two older pics(prob 2-3 months old) of his underside - it shows the Shade of green a little more better (as in how I see it in person) but not sure if you can see the blue area well enough in either picture to determine if he's cobalt or Sky blue though

But Jasmine's is pretty much true to color(in my signature) She's more of a brighter Green Almost a Florescent green shade and when she was a baby her blue before it changed was light Like sky blue is. so I'm fairly certain she is sky blue technically


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