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I thought someone here recently said that a pied bird (no matter which type) has clear center tail feathers. Is this ALWAYS the case? I have a baby from a light green dominant pied male and a DF YF1 sky blue hen that has blue center tail feathers. The other 3 dominant pieds in this clutch have clear center feathers and so do all the recessive pied I have in my other pair's clutch. Here's the pic. He's around 4 weeks old.




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Pieds in General have Clear (white or yellow) Primary tail feathers

My Dominant Pied Tweety has navy blue tail feathers the majority of the time once in a blue moon he has a white top tail feather
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You mean when he molts, it changes color?
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Nope the white top tail feather is hardly ever there I think i only have maybe 3 pics in 4 years that it was there, its usually Navy blue on top

This is his Tail normally



Then once in a blue moon its there


if its from Molting then he molts that feather out a lot more than a bird should molt
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Nope the white top tail feather is hardly ever there I think i only have maybe 3 pics in 4 years that it was there, its usually Navy blue on top

if its from Molting then he molts that feather out a lot more than a bird should molt
What do you mean "is hardly every there"? Is it just lying under the navy blue one? I'm confused.
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First pic you see the top of his tail is Navy blue, 2nd pic the top of his tail is white

99% of the time his tail is navy blue just like the 1st picture Then in the 2nd picture I may see that White top tail feather once or twice every year- year and half and its gone just as quickly as it showed up. As you see the dates on the pic it was there on the 21st but gone 8 days later.
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"if its from Molting then he molts that feather out a lot more than a bird should molt "

But where does it go if you say it's not from molting?
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With as many as I have all the same color I wouldn't know which was his and which was some one elses. almost all my birds are pied.

But if its from molting then he molts his tail feather out more than any bird should. Because he only has that white Tail feather Maybe once a year All the rest of the time its Pure Navy blue on the top.
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With as many as I have all the same color I wouldn't know which was his and which was some one elses. almost all my birds are pied.

I don't even know what you're talking about here, but it's okay; you don't need to explain.

But if its from molting then he molts his tail feather out more than any bird should. Because he only has that white Tail feather Maybe once a year All the rest of the time its Pure Navy blue on the top.
The feather doesn't just change from blue to white and then back again, so the only logical explanation is he's molting it, and it comes back in a different color, or one of the center tail feathers is white, one is blue, and sometimes the white one lies on top of the blue one. Right?
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That is the most amazing blue I have ever seen on a budgie!!
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