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If this is a pied spot, where will the mutation end up?

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Cobalt

YF Mutant 1 ?

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I know very little about budgie mutations, but I do have a pied, so I know what a pied spot looks like. It is very broken up and light so I wouldn't call it a pied spot, but what do I know about mutations lol. Really, I wouldn't take my advice it is just a guess.
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It's not a pied spot. The clear area is just from the opaline
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I know very little about budgie mutations, but I do have a pied, so I know what a pied spot looks like. It is very broken up and light so I wouldn't call it a pied spot, but what do I know about mutations lol. Really, I wouldn't take my advice it is just a guess.
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It's not a pied spot. The clear area is just from the opaline
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So it is Opaline Cobalt YF Mutant 1.

There is a pied spot in the attached picture. So how can be differentiated between the two? I have seen pieds which have very tiny spots.

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Not a pied spot. The pic of the wing showing the wing area is what is known as a 'wing miror'. All australian parrots have an underwing stripe which is not visible on the upper side of the wing but is seen quite well on the underside and does not extend to the out primary wing feather. In the Opaline mutation this stripe is altered to appear on the upper side of the wing feather and is extended to the outer most edges of the flight feathers.

Pied spots can vary in size but they are always in the back of the head region and formed from an area known as the 'neural crest'.

Just slightly off topic but your 4th pic is a great example of taking photos of the same bird in different lights can alter the visual outcome of the bird. In one photo it looks Goldenface yet in another YF M1(sf) and in another YFM2 (df). I would really love a copy of that photo if at all possible and will credit you whenever it is used.
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Not a pied spot. The pic of the wing showing the wing area is what is known as a 'wing miror'. All australian parrots have an underwing stripe which is not visible on the upper side of the wing but is seen quite well on the underside and does not extend to the out primary wing feather. In the Opaline mutation this stripe is altered to appear on the upper side of the wing feather and is extended to the outer most edges of the flight feathers.

Pied spots can vary in size but they are always in the back of the head region and formed from an area known as the 'neural crest'.

Just slightly off topic but your 4th pic is a great example of taking photos of the same bird in different lights can alter the visual outcome of the bird. In one photo it looks Goldenface yet in another YF M1(sf) and in another YFM2 (df). I would really love a copy of that photo if at all possible and will credit you whenever it is used.
Thanks RIPbudgies! Nice explanation as usual.

You are most welcome to use the picture. Just let me know if it is good enough, otherwise I'll email you a better copy.

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Thanks RIPbudgies! Nice explanation as usual.

You are most welcome to use the picture. Just let me know if it is good enough, otherwise I'll email you a better copy.

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I would appreciate a high res copy. Thanks heaps.
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I would appreciate a high res copy. Thanks heaps.
I have emailed you a high resolution picture.

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