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Old 08-03-2011, 05:17 PM
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Hello! I always know i can ask and trust all the experts here on mutations.

I think I know the mutation on the first one, but i'm not sure on the second!

I think he is a Type2 Yellowface Grey Dominant Pied (opaline?)


I think grey and not mauve because he has grey cheek patches


This one is a little more confusing for me... i think i see opaline and dominant pied, but what else i'm not sure... he's such a soft pretty color.


Back view (with a horrible wing-clipping)


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I have a few more pictures in another thread i posted if you want to take a look.
https://talkbudgies.com/showthread.php?t=75327

It looks like they are starting their first molts.... guesses on age based on iris rings?

Also, i got them from the same place at the same time.... what do you think the chances are that they are related (from the same clutch) based on their mutations?

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Yellow face opaline dominant pied grey
Greywing opaline dominant pied light green

They both look about 3 or 4 months old and they could easily be siblings

Yes, the wing clipping has ruined the look of what would otherwise be two beautiful birds
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single factor Yellowface Mutant 2 Opaline Dom Pied Grey.
Dom Pied Opaline Dilute Light Green. I say dilute because the body colour is very diluted and there are no marking which is what I would expect. If it was Greywing the body colour would be darker and there would be markings. Cheek patch is an indicator. Another possibility is Cinnamon Clearwing.

I would agree with Nev about the wing clipping and ages.
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Yellow face opaline dominant pied grey
Greywing opaline dominant pied light green

They both look about 3 or 4 months old and they could easily be siblings

Yes, the wing clipping has ruined the look of what would otherwise be two beautiful birds
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single factor Yellowface Mutant 2 Opaline Dom Pied Grey.
Dom Pied Opaline Dilute Light Green. I say dilute because the body colour is very diluted and there are no marking which is what I would expect. If it was Greywing the body colour would be darker and there would be markings. Cheek patch is an indicator. Another possibility is Cinnamon Clearwing.

I would agree with Nev about the wing clipping and ages.
Thank you for your replies!
Yes, i cannot wait for their wings to grow out. Luckily i think they are starting to moult, so hopefully it won't be too long before they start looking better and are able to fly.

I had a feeling they might be related.
There were quite a few birds there but i was immediately drawn to these two- i've learned so much about mutations from this forum, but still get confused sometimes. The lack of markings on the second bird really threw me off... greywing, dilute, cinnamon clearwing... will it become more apparent what he is after he moults?
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Lovely birds, especially the first one. What is the mutation of the second one? I trust Nev - he knows a lot, but RIPbudgies seems to know a lot too. Maybe Nev can tell us why he think it is a greywing.
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Very beautiful birds!

They will certainly look more beautiful once the wing feathers grow back.

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I would agree with Nev with the 2nd being a greying - I can only go on instinct and that was my first thought

Beautiful birds
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You that are in this "business" for such a long time surely has some instinct; so we have to believe you, but it would be nice if someone can explain why it is a greywing. what are the indicators?
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I would go with RIPbudgies, because I donít know if there are Greywings without markings.

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Aww Christine they are beautiful!
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