Originally Posted by JacoRBow_RSA
Hi Budgiebud / Dries,
With reference to another thread (refer https://talkbudgies.com/showthread.ph...688#post858688
)...I promised I'll post some pictures of babies from my Pet-dad x Show-mom pairing.
It would be great if you,breeding and genetic experts (also show judges) can offer some comments on the prospects of these two babies, given their genetics / mutations....will they have any chance on the show bench?...
..and if not, it will be good to understand better what are required for the bench....these are my first 2 (albeit "mixed") show-type babies...
Here are photos of the 1st baby: "Spearmint" (YF Opaline Cobalt)...
..pictures of 2nd baby, as well as mom and dad to follow...
They have their mother's look don't they?!
Thanks 4 now,
Thank you JacoRBow for posting the pictures.
Well, a lot comes to mind, let’s see if I can remember all.
When you say show mom, do you say that because of her size or you have acquired her from a good show breeder. You must be aware that there is a lot of difference between a big budgie and a show quality budgie. Even a show pair will lose feather quality and size over time, if bread without proper knowledge and good food/supplements.
"Gerald S Binks" mentions that unstinting good management and buying in outcrosses frequently is a key to show winners, otherwise one produces small birds, if the stud becomes too closely related. He advises to sell 10 birds in order to buy 1.
Breeding and taking own birds to show bench level is a very long and hard work and requires a lot of knowledge. Personally, I don’t think that the combination of pet and show will produce bench quality budgies. I paired English male to pet female. It produced good size budgies with chicks bigger than mom. Moms had to stand at higher level to feed the chicks in the fourth week or so. But still the chicks were not as good as the cock. Never done it the other way round, English hen and pet cock. What do you see in term of size and quality for your chicks from this pair?
Returning to hobby was nowhere as I thought it would be and I am unable to acquire some good foundation birds. I have attached some pictures though. Last time I owned a bird was in 80’s and a lot has changed since then.
As far as the requirements for the bench are concerned, it requires a lot of knowledge, experience and knowhow to control the genetics. “Nev” and “RipBudgies” are your best bet here. I can only suggest reading the bible of show breeding, “The Challenge” Breeding Championship Budgerigars, by "Gerald S Binks". It is considered by many as the finest book on all aspects of the show breeding hobby.
I have English and pet pairs in breeding cages currently. Although there is a lot of difference in the size of the birds, there is not much difference between the eggs sizes though.
Best of luck with your endeavor. I wish you every success in the hobby.