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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Old 09-08-2011, 04:49 PM
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I'm not sure but I think I asked the mutations of these birds, but I can't find the thread now. So please can you tell me the mutations again?

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The blue one is a sky blue spangle opaline (Dilute?), or a sky blue greywing...Not sure which.
And the other one is a clearwing cobalt. (possibly opaline) These are hard ones! But they are super cute!
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If that's a clearwing I'm going to jump over the moon - I want one for so long now!!!
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Left to right in the first picture:
Yellow face spangle cobalt (not opaline)
Opaline recessive pied
Spangle or a spangle dilute sky blue (not opaline)
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Thanks. So you don't think it's a clearwing?
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Left to right in the first picture:
Yellow face spangle cobalt (not opaline)
Opaline recessive pied
Spangle or a spangle dilute sky blue (not opaline)
Yay! I was right about the blue one!
Are you sure it's not a clearwing?
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Which one do you see as the clearwing? (1; 2; 3 in the nest box from left to right). I thought the dilute one could be the clearwing.
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Yes Dries,

I was hoping for your sake the far-right chick is a clearwing....but once again, I think, Nev is correct.....

...there are some "narrow width" spangle markings on the wings, which if opaline would have also had body colour replacing some of the "white" in these wing feathers!....

...and given there are none of the latter, I also consider this chick to be non-opaline...

I wish the genetic experts can tell (or else remind) us...what the difference is between "dilute" and "greywing"...especially when the body colour ISN'T AS MUCH DILUTED as one would expect for both such genes (& the % suffusion , to be considered, is NOT EASY!)?!....

...some of these chicks (with such bright, almost normal body colour), although spangle appear to have very faint "spangle markings"?!....

Will there be a definitive genetic explaination to describe such "faint spangle wing markings"?....I heard of "1st & 2nd generations spangles" somewhere...does such exists?

Similar chicks I got that I consider to be dilute, is based on fact that the "width of the grey markings" on these wing feathers are narrower than when it's a greywing.....

...will this be correct Nev?

Please help us here...thx,
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The baby is now a few days older and the markings are a little brighter - it's for sure no clearwing - if it was I would be in the dark of who the parents were, With the spangle I know. But why the spangle markings are so narrow is a mystery - to me anyway. The body color is quite "dilute" - very soft blue - much lighter than my other sky blues. Hope Nev can explain your questions - would be interesting.
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Thanks. So you don't think it's a clearwing?
Here is a clearwing.


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