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In shopping for a future cage mate for my Sam is there a mutation that I should stay away from? Or suggestions on what to look for? He is a dominant pied green. Unsure of any splits. His mutation may very well be one that I am okay to just search for a beauty with no restrictions for him, but I would like to be sure.

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I don't understand why you thinkg you need to stay away firom certain mutations?

Are you planning on breeding and worried about lethal genes?

There is no mutation you should stay away from.
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One of the main purposes of breeding should be for the betterment of the breed. With Cockatiels, there are genetic issues that can arise when breeding like to like sex linked mutations. For example, if you breed two lutinos that happen to have bald spots on the tops of the head... the chicks will more than likely be even more bald than mom and dad. If you breed a cinnamon with a lutino.. you will dilute the cinnamon even more and not have the true cinnamon color. Yes, some of these colors are very pretty but it's not betterment of the breed.

If you breed two smaller stature birds, you are more apt to get smaller chicks. But if you breed a smaller stature with a larger stature, you are hopefully going to get chicks that are getting on the bigger side.

I was curious if there were mutations in Budgies that work the same way... or is it all based upon stature/health/personality?
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One of the main purposes of breeding should be for the betterment of the breed. With Cockatiels, there are genetic issues that can arise when breeding like to like sex linked mutations. For example, if you breed two lutinos that happen to have bald spots on the tops of the head... the chicks will more than likely be even more bald than mom and dad. If you breed a cinnamon with a lutino.. you will dilute the cinnamon even more and not have the true cinnamon color. Yes, some of these colors are very pretty but it's not betterment of the breed.

If you breed two smaller stature birds, you are more apt to get smaller chicks. But if you breed a smaller stature with a larger stature, you are hopefully going to get chicks that are getting on the bigger side.

I was curious if there were mutations in Budgies that work the same way... or is it all based upon stature/health/personality?
Not to my knowledge.

However obviously if you breed a cinnamon with a lutino there is a chance the markings will be diluted.

I choose my pairings based on the health and temperament of the birds. Then what mutations I am looking to breed.
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The type of bird you choose depends on what you want to breed. One particular mutation or size might be popular but that doesn't mean that it will be a happier or healthier bird. Remember that standards are man-made, they have nothing to do with the bird's preferences
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Depends what level you think is betterment. Many find that just creating healthy birds irregardless of the brightness of their color and markings is plenty. Some dislike breeding anything that doesn't make show standards which would limit breeding to english/exhibition budgies only and they tend to have more limited colors or at least are bred to produce a smaller range of color in each genetic line. Since budgies do not have any lethal genes what you breed together is simply a matter of opinion.
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Thanks guys for all the info. There are different combinations in Tiels that will possibly breed weaker chicks and a high number of DIS or chick mortality rates. So based on everyone's responses.. it is my understanding that this is not the case with Parakeets. This is very interesting. Thanks again!
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Breeding budgies isn't like breeding Tiels. at least not with our normal ones - it maybe different for the Crested budgies but I don't know never bred them

but I breed Lutino- Lutino , Albino- Albino or Lutino- Albino in budgies all the time nothing bad happens. all their babies turned out nice sized even if both parents were dainty

But when I pair mine up first I look at size I often have at least 1 parent on the "bigger" side when I'm able to. Temperament is another thing - but all my budgies are good tempered so I don't really have to pay much mind to that. and then its color - if I am working on getting a certain mutation - I pair them accordingly, If I'm wanting to see if one or both are split to something or hiding something i pair for that.
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Great info! Thanks so much!
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