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Hi guys, Let me just start off by saying i'm new here, and pretty new to Budgies, but not to birds !

Im a member of talkcockatiels (i own 3) and now own 3 amazing and highly energetic personally raised juvenile budgies (we bred them ourselves)!
I have never personally owned budgies before now, and wow are they full of beans, so much fun in a tiny body!

Anyway, while i know alot about cockatiel mutations, i know next to nothing about budgie ones, and i have a question regarding Hedwig's mutation!

What is he!?
I have never seen another budgie like him anywere, and while i can guess his siblings mutations, his is a mystery to me.

The first two are of him, the third is of mummy and daddy bird.
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:47 AM
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I think you have a clearbody violet. The mum looks like an opaline clearbody green and the dad is probably violet and split for clearbody
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I would have guessed cinnamon clearflight pied cobalt violet. It's a good thing Nev knows a lot more than I do.

He's pretty and unique!
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Fabulous bird!! WOW! i don't think I've ever seen a bird like this. Can anyone gives us more info on clearbodies? Is this the same as Texas Clearbody? You also have to post pics of the other babies, please.
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So what made you say clear body? I guess I can see the chick is clear body but what made you say it about the parents. you can't even see their chests?
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Here are some pictures of Hedwig's siblings.

Stevie (yellow) is, i believe, lutino (he has red eyes)
and Binkie (green) who seems to just be a wild colourd budgie.





Do we also have Hedwig= boy
Stevie= girl
Binkie= girl ??

Edit: sorry about the picture sizes, im still working photobucket out >_<
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Here are some pictures of Hedwig's siblings.

Stevie (yellow) is, i believe, lutino (he has red eyes)
and Binkie (green) who seems to just be a wild colourd budgie.





Do we also have Hedwig= boy
Stevie= girl
Binkie= girl ??

Edit: sorry about the picture sizes, im still working photobucket out >_<
I'm pretty sure Stevie is a yellow-based lacewing, which is a composite of lutino and cinnamon. See https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#lacewing.

I think Binkie is normal mauve, but perhaps s/he is cinnamon mauve (https://www.****************/colorsguide.html#cinnamon).

I looked at the picture of parents in your first post, and neither one is visual cinnamon or visual ino (albino/lutino). This means the cock bird is split to cinnamon and ino. According to cinnamon genetics (https://www.****************/gen_cinnamon.html) and ino genetics (https://www.****************/gen_ino.html), the lacewing chick, Stevie, can only be female (see the punnet squares for normal cock bird split to cinnamon/ino x normal hen).

If Binkie is normal, then I'm not good enough to tell gender because the blue cere is too pale. However, if Binkie is cinnamon, she must be a hen.

I'm not an expert, though, so I hope Nev returns to comment.

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Susan, why do you say Binkie is a mauve? Isn't mauve the darkest blue that one can get? This bird doesn't look blue to me.
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Susan, why do you say Binkie is a mauve? Isn't mauve the darkest blue that one can get? This bird doesn't look blue to me.
Oops. I should have said "olive"; mauve is the darkest shade of blue.
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Here are some pictures of Hedwig's siblings.

Stevie (yellow) is, i believe, lutino (he has red eyes)
and Binkie (green) who seems to just be a wild colourd budgie.





Do we also have Hedwig= boy
Stevie= girl
Binkie= girl ??

Edit: sorry about the picture sizes, im still working photobucket out >_<

Stevie does look lacewing but Will be a female Because lacewing is sex linked- the mom doesn't have cinnamon (females can't be split cinnamon)

but Stevie can also be a Fallow (and could be a boy)They too have red eyes but are not sex linked But like an Ino (Albino or lutino) Recessive pied, or Lacewing the males cere does not go blue
https://www.****************/c_fallow.html

the other is an Olive - meaning it had 2 dark factors
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