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Maqhoor 11-09-2011 12:18 PM

Is it possible?
 
Hi,

Its been long time since I posted a thread, but I am always around reading;)

Anyway, I have a normal skyblue cock and a skyblue spangle hen

These two produced me in the first round 6 sky blue chicks (hens & cocks)

Second round produced 5 chicks (2 normal skyblue and 3 spangle skyblue)

Thired round produced 7 chicks (2 normal skyblue, 3 spangle skyblue, 1 clearbody skyblue, 1 spangle clearbody sky blue)

Now how it is possible I got 2 clearbodies, I am sure the cock is not split for clearbody cause if he is, all hens would have been clearbody...


I would attach some photos tomorrow....

Maqhoor 11-10-2011 11:34 AM

Here are the pictures

the last are shot with flash

First Clearbody
https://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9526/111pbx.jpg
With flash
https://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5926/5555iqr.jpg

Second one, seems to me a spangle clearbody
https://img847.imageshack.us/img847/8306/222bsu.jpg

https://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4299/3333qy.jpg

with flash
https://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1125/666xnm.jpg


and I think both of them are males....

FaeryBee 11-10-2011 12:03 PM

I know nothing about mutations but wanted to say that your budgies are gorgeous! :D

Dries 11-10-2011 12:17 PM

How can I see the pics? All that I see is an ice cube with a frog inside. The message say register to view image, but where do I register?

Maqhoor 11-10-2011 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dries (Post 920878)
How can I see the pics? All that I see is an ice cube with a frog inside. The message say register to view image, but where do I register?

problem fixed, sorry.

atvchick95 11-10-2011 05:49 PM

Basic Genetics of a clear body

Basic Genetics:
Normal - sex-linked (x-chromosome), dominant to Clearbody - sex-linked, dominant to
Ino - sex-linked recessive


just because you got a couple now does not mean he isn't split to it - I've had males split to cinnamon and not get any cinnamon's from them until their 8th or 9th clutch (with different females none of who was cinnamon)

some times a bird can be split to a mutation and it just never show up but it'll show up down the line with their babies.

I've had it happen also with males split to Opaline and Ino as well.

CaptainHowdy 11-10-2011 07:51 PM

The cock bird is split for clearbody which is how these chicks have been produced, they are both hens as they can only be as clearbody is a sex linked gene and the hen is not a clearbody.

PickySquakerz 11-10-2011 09:16 PM

very cute budgies! love the colors!

Maqhoor 11-11-2011 04:33 AM

FaeryBee

Thanks!:D

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PickySquakerz

healthy foods makes nice colors, thanks:D

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atvchick95 & CaptainHowdy

Thanks for the great info, this would make sense alot...
I thought that if the cock is split, all female chicks would be his split gene, but after reading your posts, its just like how the ino gene work

and moreover, if clearbody is dominant to ino, then if I paired this split cock to an ino hen, there is a better chance that I would get some clearbody cocks, right?

CaptainHowdy 11-11-2011 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maqhoor (Post 921325)
and moreover, if clearbody is dominant to ino, then if I paired this split cock to an ino hen, there is a better chance that I would get some clearbody cocks, right?

In order to get clearbody cocks you need to pair this split cock to a clearbody hen.

So if you breed your hens in the future pair them to either a split clearbody cock or a visual clearbody cock in order to get clearbody cocks.


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