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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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I have a pair of solid yellow budgies, one red eyed and one black eyed... they had 5 chicks and boy was I surprized to get the colors I did... 2 white head blues, 1 yellow head seagreen (blue II ?) 1 solid yellow, and one that I am not sure about...what is this?


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Here are the parents... their first clutch and my first budgie babies


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well the first one looks like a recessive pied- that would require a copy from each parent. It seems like their split to blue, too.
does #3 have a white "fingerprint" spot on it's head? and maybe a white patch or so on the body? The yellow seems likely to be a dark-eyed clear.
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Yes, #3 does have the white fingerprint on the back of the head...no white on the belly, what does that mean? Pied? And these must be split to blue... both parents I assume? I cage breed only with one pair to the cage so for sure this is mom and dad.
Are some mutations more costly?
I know little of the genetics but have been trying to read up and learn...so far I am totally stumped by this group of chicks.... but being split to blue makes total sense to me now...what about that seagreen one?
The recessive pied... both yellow parents are split for pied? How about dominant pied, only one parent needs this trait to pass it on to the chicks? I thought pied was a dominant trait... okay, I see I know nothing.
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there are 3 different pied mutations, 2 dominant(obviously) and clearflight are dominant traits, the third is recessive pied which is, as the name implies, a recessive trait.
the yellowface is a little harder to explain, but I would guess that one of the parents is a lighter shade of yellow, maybe almost white in some places?
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Which parent is the Red eyed? Is it the female on the nest box? if so she's a Yellow Face Albino (AKA Creamino) so that would be where the yellow face came from

the Dark eyed Parent is a Dark eyed clear which is combination of Recessive pied and Clear flight pied

so one parent is Visually a Recessive pied(even though you don't see it) and one is Split to it or Masking - and once you let us know who is who when it comes to the parents and their eye color that will be solved very quickly.

to get dominant pied one of the parents is Masking it - it's dominant so they can't be split to it.

and you got a clear flight pied because the one parent is a clear flight pied visually (the Dark eyed clear again is a combo of Recessive pied and Clear flight pied)

If the one on the nest box is the red eye like i said she's a Creamino Which is Blue Series , and the male would be split to blue to get blues and green series both
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Although the explanations of the different mutations is simple it to see all the different mutations in 1 nest. Lovely babies!!
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Can you tell us what parent is what mutation?

One parent is Lutino red eyes. Because of the color of the chicks this parent must be split for blue and recessive pied.

The second parent is a Dark eyed clear. Dark eyed clear is a mix of two mutations Recessive pied and Clear flight pied. this parent also must be split for blue.

1 Recessive pied, green
2 Normal, blue, yellow face type two
3 Normal, blue
4 Recessive pied, blue
5 Is this chicks eyes red or dark?
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I would put #4 as clearflight pied, blue
and I agree with atvchick that the mom would be a yellowface 2, albino, blue split to recessive pied and that would mean that #5 is most likely a darkeyed clear like his/her father
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I'm not good with mutations, but you have some gorgeous budgies!!!
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A beautiful array of budgies.
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