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Old 11-23-2011, 06:26 PM
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3 of Sky and Pringles eggs have hatched, and the first has normal black eyes. The 2nd and 3rd ones have reddish/pinkish eyes? Their eyes have not opened yet, but it still is reddish compared to the other one. Do I have 2 albino babies on my hands? I don't even know if that is possible with my birds, but I do not know their mutations. I got them from people who didn't want them. First pic is of Sky (mom) and second is Pringles (dad). 3rd is of their 3 chicks that have hatched so far.


That bump on Sky's beak was a seed, it's not there anymore.





The 2 on the left and right of the middle one have the red eyes, could they be albino or what?? Thanks!

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I can't tell too well from the pictures, if the eyes are barely there looking they are red so the two chicks will be Albinos and they will be Hens therefore your cock is split to Ino (this is going on the assumption your Hen is a yellowface skyblue bird and not a green series bird).

If the eyes at this stage appear plum coloured the two chicks will be cinnamons and again hens meaning your cock is split to cinnamon.

From what I can see of the picture they appear to be Albino but best wait for someone else to confirm as my screens a bit wonky at the mo lol.
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Yep looks like little albinos to me too

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It's entirely possible to get albino chicks from a pair where neither parent has albino markings. This would mean that the father is split to (carrying without expressing) the albino gene. Also, If they are albinos then they must also be females. Hens only have one copy of this trait (from their father) so they cannot be split.
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Wow, thanks guys! Their parents just keep poppin' out all different colors! This is a pic of their last clutch.


Is ino just short for albino? Also (I like learning about mutations btw), I am a little bit confused on that the albinos will all be female. Would there ever be a male albino from her or her chicks?? I am pretty sure Sky is a yellowface sky blue, her color has gradually became greener and less blue as she has molted and grown older.

CaptainHowdy: To me it looks like the 1st chick (the middle one in pic) has black eyes, were you implying that they were purple so would be a cinnamon?? Thank you for replying! I am excited that I have 2 albinos!!
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ino is used as a term for the gene that makes alb-inos in the blue series and lut-inos in the green series, yellowface albinos are sometimes called cream-inos, this is all the same gene hence the term ino.
ino ( and several other mutations) is a sex linked gene, this can be confusing because in humans (female XX, male XY) females can carry sex-linked genes, like colorblindness, without expressing it. Birds' genetics are reversed so dad can pass on his ino gene to half of his daughters who don't get a copy from mom, while the half his sons that the ino gene get a normal gene from mom that covers it up. The others get dad's normal copy
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Thanks for clearing that up april8791, I haven't done much with genes yet, but when I eventually do, that will make much more sense then. I wonder how many more albinos I will get!
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If in 2-3 days you no longer have "red eyed" babies in the nest then that'll tell you they are cinnamon and not Ino

Ino's when born look like they have no eye balls - Easiest way to explain it

Cinnamon's you can tell they have an eye ball but its a deeper red than inos and they don't stay that color for long they'll turn dark in 2-3 days after hatching. - It's a lot easier to tell the difference between the two when you have one of each side by side - when your not used to seeing the eye colors but after a few years you can spot a cinnamon or Ino a baby a mile away
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Ohhhh! From that, I think that the 2nd chick is albino, but the other one just hatched less than 2 days ago, so I am not sure. Cinnamons are soooo pretty Thank you!
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The chick with black eyes will not be a cinnamon. As ATV said it's easier to see th difference in albino and cinnamon when side by side, I will try and find you a picture of one of my clutches which had Inos and Cinnamons.

As for the Inos only being hens this is because Ino is a sex linked gene like opaline is.

So as the cock bird is not Ino and the hen is not Ino this means your cock is split to Ino, he can pass this gene on, any females that get this gene will be Ino they can not be split to it, however there is a chance some of the cock birds can be split to it, not all will get this gene and you will only know by breeding.

Now to get cock Inos you will need a pairing of
Ino hen to Ino cock
Ino hen to normal cock split Ino.
those 2 pairings will produce a mixed of cocks and hens that are Ino, any cocks that are not Ino from those pairings will be split to it.

Ino is another way of saying albino or lutino or yellowface albino as the gene is known as Ino it just depends on the base colour of the bird to if it is Lut-ino, alb-ino or yf alb-ino.

I hope this helps
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