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Question Baby mutations by pin feathers

Is there a way to establish a mutation in babies by the amount and disposal of blue/green in the skin when pin feathers start to show?

I have a 10 days old baby and he started to show his pin feathers. By the tail , i think is't spangle, but what surprises me is that he does have very little blue showing in his wings. What is that mean? Pied or something? I saw on other journal here that chicks his age show a lot more blue already in the skin.

Can you give me a hint about what can he be? He has clear orange beak too. ( This was the baby that i thought it had plum eyes when hatched)

Dad is creamino and mum is yf spangle skyblue. I don't know if dad is hiding or split to other mutations.

Can you show me pics of babies at this age showing how much blue should they have in the wing skin?
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Old 09-24-2012, 02:03 PM
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I think that this bird is a Spangle - the primary tail feathers are an indication of that. I can't see anything more at this stage. The orange beak is usually an indication of a RP, but I don't know if RP's are the only mutation with an orange beak.
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You definitely have a pied there! Probably a recessive

Spangles do have white/ light yellow main tail feathers, but your little baby has 3 white tail feathers instead of 2 like a spangle would have so it could just be the pied effecting them, or spangle in addition to the pied if the wing markings end up being spangle

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I was wondering about the 3 tail feathers.
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Thank you both! I will be updating when he will have more feathers to be more specific.
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Definitely spangle and definitely pied

Te second male started to show his pins too. He , as well, have a pied spot behind his head and FOUR white feathers in the tail, the rest of them being spangle.

In the photos is the first baby
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Definitely spangle and definitely pied

Te second male started to show his pins too. He , as well, have a pied spot behind his head and FOUR white feathers in the tail, the rest of them being spangle.

In the photos is the first baby
What a cutie!

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I would love to see these birds in a week or two! Beautiful.
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The progression of this thread is awesome. Strong looking chicks
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