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Mutations and Genetics Learn about budgie genetics and the wide variety of mutations.

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Ok, so as recommended in another post, I went and found a breeding aged clearflight hen. So just to be sure, she should produce Dark Eyed Clears if paired with my DEC cock, right?

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Old 11-06-2012, 02:51 AM
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Hi Stephanie

Clearflight pieds have double factor and single factor and also she can be split for recessive pied.

If your clearflight pied hen is NOT split for recessive pied, the resulting offsprings are 100% DEC (whether these DEC are double factors or single factors depend on the mother hen)

If your clearflight pied hen is SPLIT for recessive pied, the resulting offsprings
are as follows :
- 37.5% DEC
- 12.5% recessive pieds
- 37.5% Clearflight pied split for rec. pied
- 12.5% Normals split for rec. pied

Hence if you see mutations other than DEC (white downs in the chicks) then you know the clearflight pied hen you bought is split for recessive pied.

If the baby chicks have white downs in 100%, then the mother hen is not split for recessive pied.

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If your clearflight pied is not split for recessive pied you won't get any dark eyed clear chicks regardless of the mutation of her mate.

To get dark eyed clear chicks a recessive pied gene must come from each parent. The clearflight pied gene can come from either parent
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Old 11-08-2012, 02:01 AM
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DEC = 1 clearfight gene + 2 recessive pied genes

DEC (cock) x Clearflight (hen - not split for rec. pied) = 100% DEC

DEC (cock) x Clearflight/rec. pied (hen) = 37.5 % DEC + 12.5 Rec. pieds + 37.5% Clearflights/rec. pied + 12.5% Normals/rec. pied

Believe it or not, it is true.
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DEC = 1 clearfight gene + 2 recessive pied genes

DEC (cock) x Clearflight (hen - not split for rec. pied) = 100% DEC

Believe it or not, it is true.
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Hi Stephanie

If your clearflight pied hen is NOT split for recessive pied, the resulting offsprings are 100% DEC (whether these DEC are double factors or single factors depend on the mother hen)

I agree with Nev, this is not true I breed DECs, and you will not get any of them from this pairing I can assure you.

Other than pairing 2 DECs together, there is no way to get 100% DECs.

Pairing a DEC to a clearflight not split for recessive pied would give you 50% sf clearflight pied, 25% Df clearflight pied and 25% normals assuming both are sf. All of the chicks would be split for recessive pied, but there would not be any DECs since they would only be split for it because both parents did not have a recessive pied gene to give.

The best pairing other than having 2 DECs if you are hoping to get DEC chicks is pairing a recessive pied and DEC. With this pairing you would expect 50% DECs and 50% recessive pieds

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