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Ok im taking a guess... please tell me if im incorrect. Thank you
Grey clearflight pied opaline spangle(DF?) Male




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Looks like you might be right, but he's only a single factor spangle. If he was double factor, he would be pure white. Gorgeous boy, too.
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Oh great thank you intoxxication. Im still learning the whole SF, DF thing. Thanks for clearing that up, I had thought since i couldnt see the outline of the black on the feathers for the spangle that it was DF. Is that just because he is opaline?
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The bird might be a double factor grey with mabe 2 dark factors.
I would love to see the front of this bird.
I haven't seen something like this before - an absolute beaut!!!
Where did you get him?
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Thanks Dries! I found him in a pet store. I went in there to get more wood shavings and naturally went and had a peek at the birds. Then I saw him and knew I had to bring him home! I too have never seen anything like him. I know the pet store gets a lot of their birds shipped up to here from South Australia. He has no leg band on him so I dont know for sure. How will I know if he is a double factor Grey? I am planning on breeding him so I guess I will find out then?

Here is a pic of the front.

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You could pair him with any other mutation. If he is a DF Grey, all the babies will be grey. I think the best will be to give him a normal skyblue hen, because if you pair him with a green bird, the babies will be greygreen and that is sometimes difficult to see. Also if he is not a DF grey, but has 2 dark factors you will get cobalts from this pairing.
When are you going to breed with him - you don't know his age, but he doesn't look too young. I think he is at least 4 months old. Good luck with your plans.
I would love to have this one in my aviary!
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Thank you Dries. I was planning on pairing him with my violet cinnamon hen. Do you think that would be a suitable match or should I look for a sky blue hen? His eyes have white iris which I thought meant he was 8 months or older? I will definately not be breeding him as yet and i wont be until well into next year. And if next year goes by as quick as this year I wont be waiting long haha
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If you breed your opaline, spangle grey with a violet cinnamon you will get...

100% opaline females
50% females will also be spangle
50% normals males
50% spangle males
greys, single factor violets and blues
All males will be split for cinnamon but none of the chicks will show it. You could also get some more mutations mixed in if either of your birds are split for anything. Good luck!
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You'll get lovely babies if you pair it with the violet cinnamon. Bridget gave an excellent explanation of what you will get. The problem is that you will get Greyviolets and they are quite difficult to identify - at least for me. A skyblue would just make it so much easier, but maybe you you're not really interested to know that he is a DF Grey.
Another fact that bridget point out is that your bird isn't a clearflight - it is just a spangle.
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Well, I looked again at the picture, because I'm not a 100% sure that it isn't a clearflight. I'm going to ask Lindsey if she can have a look and tell us what the mutation is.she is really an expert.
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