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Taming and Bonding Taming and Bonding is all about helping your budgie learn to TRUST you. This requires time and patience and does not happen overnight.

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Unhappy Baby budgie is afraid of me?

Hello! I've had 4 budgies for almost 6months now, and one of them have birth to 2 babies (current age: 3.5weeks and another is 3 days younger)
So I've been taking the older little budgie out of the best and I used to spend 5-10mins everyday since it was 2weeks old in order to bond better, buy now it's just scared of me, whenever I get my hands close it runs backwards or goes away... keeps running away from me etc... did I do something wrong?
PS: their parents and all the other budgies in the cage are tamed (they step up etc)

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Without more information, it is impossible for us to know if you did something that startled the baby to make it more fearful.

Taming and Bonding is all about trust.
Make sure you move slowly and calmly when approaching the budgie and talk quietly and reassuringly to it when you do so.

Do you currently have all of your budgies in one cage?

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-new-old.html

At this point, only the Father and the 2 babies should be in the cage with the nestbox.
The Mother and your other budgies should be in a separate cage with no nestbox.

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-what-do.html

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Is this the first time you've had budgies?
Are you certain the Mother and Father are not related?
How old are the Mother and Father?
Did you have them on a conditioning diet prior to allowing them to breed?

I'll be looking forward to your responses to my questions.
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Your baby is simply viewing you as less important than being fed
by mom/dad. Every bird is an individual and being so young could
be included in why this baby is not responding as you expected.
Once he's fully fledged and spending more time with people it's likely he'll begin to warm up. He's just more trusting of his bird friendsand less with people, for now. Give him more time.
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I agree with what Phil wrote.
Only wanted to add that many unweaned birds (even handfed) go thru a "hiding" stage, when they are afraid of humans and at the sight of a human, run somewhere to hide. Maybe yours is going thru such a stage now.
I'd definitely not force close contact with your hand and you. Keep your hand at a distance which you know is acceptable by your baby budgie. Lots of patience.
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Without more information, it is impossible for us to know if you did something that startled the baby to make it more fearful.

Taming and Bonding is all about trust.
Make sure you move slowly and calmly when approaching the budgie and talk quietly and reassuringly to it when you do so.

Do you currently have all of your budgies in one cage?

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-new-old.html

At this point, only the Father and the 2 babies should be in the cage with the nestbox.
The Mother and your other budgies should be in a separate cage with no nestbox.

https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...s-what-do.html

Please discourage further breeding

When We Don't Want Eggs

Is this the first time you've had budgies?
Are you certain the Mother and Father are not related?
How old are the Mother and Father?
Did you have them on a conditioning diet prior to allowing them to breed?

I'll be looking forward to your responses to my questions.
hello! thanks for the reply, and so far, the mother is not hurting the babies in any way... infact she's the one who feeds the two babies and I handle it for 5-10 minutes everyday and when they're in my hand sometimes the father comes and plucks it's feathers like he's hurting them plus, he never feeds them these days, he used to feed them when they were a week old and now (3.5weeks old) he never feeds them!
and the budgie's nest looks like this So It's kind of difficult to take them out of the pot, maybe that's why they're afraid?
I'm really confused... other than that, I've done nothing that could scare them, no sudden movements etc...

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Your baby is simply viewing you as less important than being fed
by mom/dad. Every bird is an individual and being so young could
be included in why this baby is not responding as you expected.
Once he's fully fledged and spending more time with people it's likely he'll begin to warm up. He's just more trusting of his bird friendsand less with people, for now. Give him more time.
hmm, makes sense... but is there anything I can do to strengthen the bond? I see videos when the owner kisses and cuddles the budgies and they enjoy it! I want a bond like that

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I agree with what Phil wrote.
Only wanted to add that many unweaned birds (even handfed) go thru a "hiding" stage, when they are afraid of humans and at the sight of a human, run somewhere to hide. Maybe yours is going thru such a stage now.
I'd definitely not force close contact with your hand and you. Keep your hand at a distance which you know is acceptable by your baby budgie. Lots of patience.
hope so! any tips on how to increase the bond? I see all these videos where the owners kiss and cuddle their budgies and they love it too... I want such a bond :'(

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The purpose of this forum is to promote the best practices for the health and well-being of budgies.

It's important you recognize and accept that not all budgies like to be kissed and cuddled.
Budgies are individuals, just like people and they have their own personalities.
Expecting a budgie to behave in a certain way is not realistic.

It takes time and patience to help a budgie learn to trust you.
Trying to rush it only makes the budgie frightened and less inclined to want to be with you.

Additionally, most budgies once they pass the "baby" stage, do not like to be petted or touched.
If your budgie does like to be petted, you should only ever pet his head, neck or chest area.
Stroking a budgie's back and/or tail stimulates its breeding instinct. Bonding means allowing them to choose to be with you.

You did not answer all the questions I asked.

Is this the first time you've had budgies?
Are you certain the Mother and Father are not related?
How old are the Mother and Father?
Did you have them on a conditioning diet prior to allowing them to breed?



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There seems to be contradicting information when comparing to your other thread where it seemed you haven't been handling your chicks and were looking for advice: https://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breedi...ie-babies.html

The key in bonding with chicks as well as with older pet birds is to be gentle and understanding, to be able to read the bird's body language and to act according to it.
By not forcing the chick/bird to do something against their will and to make a connection by showing empathy, by using our voices to communicate to them, by helping the weaning chicks to be self sufficient and by offering them food, by gently playing with them and by being consistent with training/taming, that's how one achieves success.

Are you sure the father budgie is truly plucking the chicks' feathers?
If all of your budgies are housed together, then the stressful situation may very well be leading to unnecessary aggression towards the chicks and this can certainly impact negatively the chicks' mental state, especially when they associate being picked up by you and getting a few feathers plucked as a result. They seem to not be in the best of environments where they can develop the confidence needed for the future challenges in life.
This can also impact their personalities and make them overall more nervous and anxious and less likely to be receptive in bonding with people.
Problems with aggression can also arise if these chicks aren't properly socialized, they can inherit the aggressiveness shown to them by their father.
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Aluz and Deb have offered you some great advice.

Please take the time to answer the questions that have been asked about your budgies. Without all the information, we can not help you fully, and that is why they are being asked. If you do not provide all the information, no one can give you a full answer to your problem.

When it comes to the baby budgie, in my personal opinion, I believe you are perhaps trying too hard with this baby and it's have a negative affect. From the post you made about wanting a bird to cuddle.... it's just *not* in the majority of budgies nature to be cuddly. I would back off from this little budgie for a while. It is telling you it is afraid and I think you need to let it have some space from you right now.
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Greetings I also agree with our knowledgeable friends on this.hopefully in time your budgie will bond with you.it takes time and a lot of patients.I too had to slowly work on my Gracie and so far its going good.I wish you and your budgie many happy years together.have faith and you can do it .Blessings always a budgie is like having a true blue friend.
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