Taming and BondingTaming and Bonding is all about helping your budgie learn to TRUST you. This requires time and patience and does not happen overnight. Thread Description:Need help with these beauties
Good day every one, so I've always wanted birds, just love them, me and the wife pick two budgies up today, girl and boy (not really sure if its true), from some random woman who got them for her kid and her kid didn't like them, after a month of having them they were posted on kijiji (just sad) but i was lucky enough to get them, so they were never tamed, scared of me and the wife if we put our hands in, seemed to be in good health, chirping lots, playing with the toys, eating, but they do fight over food a lot or even when they are just sitting next to each other, they will randomly bite each other. SO my question here is, i want to tame them ( of course), but i feel bad for splitting them up, i dont know where she got them, so not sure if they have been together longer then the month she had them or not. or even if they like each other that much to care?
In the meantime, if you’d like to post a photo of your birds’ faces, in natural lighting and taken without flash, then members can help verify the genders of your budgies.
Budgies will very often squabble over food and for that reason, we recommend that you have two dishes of everything to help allow both birds to eat as needed.
Occasionally two birds just don’t get along well together and need to be separated. Minor brief squabbles are normal. To ‘randomly bite each other’ leads me to question whether they are perhaps in too small a cage. Here are the MINIMUM recommended cage sizes: https://www.talkbudgies.com/housing-b...age-sizes.html
...though bigger is always better.
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Thanks for the advice, but i been reading a lot and i haven't found any thing that tells me its ok to separate them after being together for so long, like i said i would like to tame them and every wheres i read tells me i should separate them or take them one at a time, but since i cant even get them out of the cage to do one at a time, i figured i would just separate them and taking them to the flight room in their cages.
And your right, the cage might be a little small for them, but i am in the middle of building them a new one out of a china cabinet, so trust me, they will have lots of room when they are tamed and able to be housed together again (if i separate them). im trying to do this with them as happy as possible. And they do have 2 water dishes, two food dishes, and they even have apples slices around the cage, so its not like they cant eat, its just the male is always picking at the female when she tries to eat (figured out which is which)
Any ways, pretty sure ill be separating them, watch and see if they seem sadder or not, if they seem ok ill keep going with it, if not and they are happier together , ill just have to work harder for them to trust me is all
I would suggest you leave the two together initially while they settle into their new environment unless they are doing more than "bickering". If they seems as if they are going to hurt one another, then you do need to move them into individual cages.
You can work with both budgies in one cage -- it just will take more time and patience.
Budgies need a minimum of two weeks to settle into their new home and you should not be trying to touch or tame them at this time. They are often submissive initially because they are terrified.
You can cover the top and three sides of the cage to help them feel more secure. Play music or the TV for them when you are not around during the day.
To bond with your birds, you need to build their trust in you.
They will have to learn over time that you will not hurt them.
To build your birds’ trust, sit by their cage and read, talk or sing quietly to them for a period of at least 10-15 minutes, 3 or 4 times day. After about a week, rest your hand on the outside of the cage when you talk to them so they will learn that your hand is safe and will not hurt them.
After a week of resting your hand on the outside of the cage, rest your hand inside the cage when you talk.
Don’t make sudden moves, don’t try to touch them.
Let their get used to the idea that the hand is now in their safe place and not harming them.
After 2 weeks, begin moving your hand slowly toward your bird. If they become agitated, stop moving your hand and just hold very still until they calm down. When they are comfortable with your hand near them, you can offer them a bit of millet or a few seeds.
Always work at your birds’ pace.
Move slowly and talk reassuringly and calmly to their whenever you interact with them.
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Your right, i shouldn't be trying at this time and i will take these two weeks and read lol, I just figured i would try and see how they felt about humans really, but the owners before did not deserve them.... But i do have one more question before starting my read. the reason i was asking about the separation is cause i read that if they have one another with they will have no need for bonding with me and they will just see me as a threat to there relationship?, and the longer i leave them together the more they will not need me, same as mirrors, should i take them away?, i feel like its stupid questions but the more you read the more opinions you get, so its hard to figure out what is right and wrong.
Remove any mirrors from the cage.
Budgies can become obsessed with their reflection and become aggressive and territorial.
Additionally, some budgies will feed the mirror image to the point where they become malnourished.
You don't know how long these budgies have been together so it's hard to know if they have already bonded to one another.
If so, it would not be good to separate them unless it's necessary for their safety.
Do you know what gender the birds are?
If you have a mixed gender pair, you are going to need to be very careful to prevent breeding.
Two budgies are more difficult to tame and bond with but it can be done.
A lot depends on the individual birds.
Some people with multiple budgies have had great success working with each bird individually (even though they are housed together) and using clicker training.
Take a look at the stickies in the taming and bonding section of the forum as well as some of the training journals.
Even if you don't end up with tamed budgies, you should be glad that you've taken these birds in and will be giving them a safe and loving home.
I have untamed budgies and I love just watching them play together and interact with one another. I don't feel the need to have them bonded to me - I'd rather watch them flying around the room and playing together and just "being budgies".
No more mirrors!, I don't know if they are fighting bad or not, they seem to stay next to each other pretty much all the time, its just randomly one will bite the other and not let go for a bit, that's the worse though, the rest of the time its just standing up straight and chirping next to the food or water, but both are still eating and getting water. Two dishes for both, food and water. So i don't think i have to separate them and i don't feel like i should, so they will stay together and they can have the bigger cage when im done and ill work with them housed together. They are male and female, One has a blue ceres and the other with more a red colour, If im correct, thats how you can tell. And i thought they were younger then their first molt, but they are not, its all white from the ceres to the top of the head. So im really not sure how old they are, got them from kijiji. try my hardest to get them to bond, if they dont, you're right, they will just be happy being budgies lol
this was the best pic i can get with out being in there more then once while taking the mirrors out, can you tell me if they are male or female?, see if i was right or not, and they really didn't seem to bad, hopefully they will like it here
so if we are going by that, then the girl is 8 months or older since the white is very clear in the picture? and the boy is 4 to 6 months?. maybe they aren't as bonded as i thought, i figured they were bought at the same time... guess they just got him later.