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Taming and Bonding Taming and Bonding is all about helping your budgie learn to TRUST you. This requires time and patience and does not happen overnight.

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Old 05-29-2018, 09:15 AM
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Greetings everyone.

As of last week I bought 2 Budgies, which I recently came to understand that it would make the taming a bit harder.

Thus far, 1 budgie (Blue) is afraid to eat the millet, though doesn't fly away when my hand is near. She merely moves a bit to the side avoiding it. As for my other budgie (Ocean), he really enjoys the millet and usually sees it in a distance when I hold it and getting a bit 'excited'? I think? As he comes closer to the cage randomly, but not always.

But Ocean has no issues eating it from my hand regardless of how I hold it, but he still stays standing on his stick rather than on my hand. He does occasionally follow the millet on multiple sticks in attempts to eat from it. Though randomly Blue appears to distract Ocean by flying/speaking which may make him to stop eating and jump back to his stick.

Now, I've read somewhere on YouTube that if you use your finger slightly and gently to push just above his paws/on his belly, a budgie may get on your finger eventually. In these 2 days that appears to be the case. Ocean was standing on my index finger multiple times using this method, but still appears to be afraid to jump on my finger(s) on his own free will.

Should I keep doing this method or is this method not recommended?

As for the mirror in the image, already removed it. Saw on the internet that it isn't always recommended.

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Hi there Skyrider,

Congratulations on your new budgies! Since you’ve only had them a very short time, what you’re experiencing is completely normal.

We generally recommend for the first couple weeks, to let your budgies “settle in” to their new environment and routine, and not expect anything from them.

The fact that they’re not super flighty is great, but in many instances, when a new budgie is still very new and insecure in their new home, they will act more tame then they really are.

More ambient attention rather than direct attention at this point is what I’d recommend. If the cage seems very open and exposed, they can benefit from a cloth covering a couple sides of the cage for security.

Move slowly with your hand as you clean the cage and change food/water. Let them become accustomed to you and the presence of your hand first, and always remember to go at the budgie’s pace, without any expectations on how long it might take to tame and train to get where you want it. After the birds are adjusted, it can take weeks to months for some individuals to trust humans enough to sit on you. It takes not only consistency, but time. Then depending on the individual, some may never “want” your companionship and it will be a one sided relationship which can still be enjoyable, while others may choose to bond to a human. It’s definitely too soon to tell at this point.

Please familiarize yourself with the forum, by taking a look at the Stickies posts at the top section of each forum category, and our Articles section as well. There you’ll find answers to many common questions on healthcare, behavior, taming, and a lot more. If you still have questions after looking through our resources, feel free to ask .

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Hi there and to the forums!

Julie has given you great advice. It's important to take things slow; budgies can be submissive because they're scared. I would wait a few more weeks before attempting to put your hand in the cage, it's usually recommended to wait at least two before starting taming.

When you do, as mentioned, be sure to take things slowly with him. He'll be more willing to step onto your hand if you get him used to it first.

I look forward to hearing how it goes with Ocean and Blue!

Be sure to also read through the budgie articles and stickies to ensure you're up to date on the very best of budgie care practices. If you have any questions after reading through everything, please be sure to ask as we'd love to help.

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Just wanted to ask what are the dimensions of your cage? The absolute minimum cage size for two budgies is 30 x 18 x 18 inches.
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Thanks everyone!

After I made this thread, I found out that Ocean easily jumped on my hand to get the Millet. But I have made a huge mistake. I wanted (as per some taming instructions) to let her fly out of him out of the cage so I assisted him. He flew through the chamber afraid which was to be expected. At the end I was able to get him on my finger so I can put him back in the cage.

But the problem is now that while he does eat the millet in the cage randomly from my finger/hand, he no longer gets on my hand/finger.. When he does at rare moments, he quickly gets back on the stick.

I think he's afraid that I'll be letting him out again. I would assume I can regain his trust?

As for the cage dimensions, not sure by head. But I bought the largest one in the shop but I'll give those details later on once I have them.
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Trust comes slowly and through consistency of routine. I know it’s hard not to want to see changes quickly, but sometimes when we don’t focus so much on how fast he’s progressing or micro-analyzing the situation... before you know it, you’ll look back and see how far you’ve actually come. Keep up the good work .
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For some strange reason Blue is now also eating from the Millet, yet on standing stick distance. Though Ocean isn't secure yet getting on the hand as frequently as yesterday.

Do the tutorials/Guides here on the forums mention anything regarding how much you can feed the millet to the Budgies? I've seen on the internet something about 2 to 3x a day trying to use your hand for them to feed the millet with 3 to 5m each. Would not really matter if I would do for example, 1x per hour?

And how long/much you have to walk by to talk to them? And can you even tame them without millet? I assume they would be scared just by jumping on the hand without any lure as they are right now. Usually if I don't offer anything, they just walk sideways or jump away.

EDIT: Please see image, is this normal in the evening? I used the flash to take the image seeing it was dark in the room besides the TV light. They've been hanging there for like an hour. Are they actually attempting to sleep like this? It's the first time they hang there for a long time in the evening. Usually they sleep with either 1 or 2 claws on a stick.
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It’s clear from the photo, that both Ocean and Blue are stressed out. You’ve only had them a very, very short time. They are still in the time frame where they need to adjust to the new surroundings, and not be tamed or trained at this time. Please stop pushing them to hurry up and get tame right now.

You can give them ambient attention in the room to get them used to you. Give them attention by talking to them, and getting them used to the presence of your hand as you service the cage. If they’re telling you that you’re getting too close too often, respect that and back off. You can try holding a piece of millet, but don’t keep trying if they seem resistant. Watch their body language closely, and back off when they tell you you’re doing too much. When the time comes that you can gradually start doing a little more with them, you will need to not be so ‘intense’ with them. What I mean is, 1x per hour is beyond a doubt way too much! I know you didn’t say you were doing that, but were asking if it was okay to do it. A couple or no more than a few times per day will be sufficient. Then don’t expect to see improvements in leaps and bounds.. their trust will come over time, in very small increments. It would not be uncommon for them to be stuck on a particular step for a while.

There is no ‘exact’ magic number of how many times per day, or exactly how much millet, BUT common sense needs to be exercised here. Keep in mind that budgies should have no more than 1 1/2 to 2 tsp of seed per day per budgie (in addition to other healthy foods). There’s no way you’re going to be able to tell literally exactly how much seed one is consuming, so don’t stress about exact amounts. It’s only a guideline.

As soon as you’re able to do so, I would strongly suggest a larger cage for the two. Consider this cage temporary. Then you can store it as an extra cage for transport, hospital, quarantine, etc.

Ocean and Blue will benefit from a partial cover on the top and drapes down 1 or 2 sides of the cage for a sense of security and comfort. More toys, a swing, and the addition of natural wood branch perches instead of dowels would be beneficial too.

All the best .
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Everyone here has given you great advice. Learning you read your budgies body language is really rewarding once you begin to recognize the subtle signals they send. It may feel a bit overwhelming at first with all you need to know and remember, but it's well worth it. :> I hope you keep us up to date with how things go! Keeping a taming journal here is a great idea, and can help you see how far you've come!
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Hi! to Talk Budgies

I recommend you back off from trying to work with your budgies and start over.

Budgies need a minimum of two weeks to settle into their new home and you should not be trying to touch or tame them at this time. They are often submissive initially because they are terrified.
You can cover the top and three sides of the cage to help them feel more secure. Play music or the TV for them when you are not around during the day.

To bond with your birds, you need to build their trust in you.
They will have to learn over time that you will not hurt them.

To build your birds’ trust, sit by their cage and read, talk or sing quietly to them for a period of at least 10-15 minutes, 3 or 4 times day. After about a week, rest your hand on the outside of the cage when you talk to them so they will learn that your hand is safe and will not hurt them.

After a week of resting your hand on the outside of the cage, rest your hand inside the cage when you talk.
Don’t make sudden moves, don’t try to touch them.
Let their get used to the idea that the hand is now in their safe place and not harming them.

After 2 weeks, begin moving your hand slowly toward your bird. If they become agitated, stop moving your hand and just hold very still until they calm down. When they are comfortable with your hand near them, you can offer them a bit of millet or a few seeds.

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