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Hi there! I'm new here with 2 new budgies. I was hoping y'all could help me figure out what gender they are. I'm kind of hoping they're both boys since my daughters have already named them Tony and Loki (Tony is the yellow one and Loki is blue). Although I had a couple budgies as a kid, I'm looking forward to learning more about them. Thanks!
 

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Hi, your budgies are beautiful! :) Tony is a male. He is a recessive pied mutation, so that means he will keep his juvenile colored pink cere his entire life.

With Loki, the lighting and angle of the photo it's kind of hard to tell whether the cere looks like Tony's, or if it's a chalky light bluish shade with white around the nostrils which is typical of a young female. IF Loki's cere looks more like Tony's in person (uniform color pink or lavender) then he is a boy too. Cute pic, but it's not the best picture for determining cere color. At first I wanted to say girl, but then my eyes keep playing tricks on me and I can't accurately tell the color. Let's see if others can see a clear definite color.

The best way to post a pic of the cere is from the front view, natural daylight, close enough and in focus. ;)
 

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Thank you! I do have this picture, but I don't know if it's any better. If not, I'll try to get a better one tomorrow. Tony is definitely the more vocal of the 2. He's very playful and they are so much fun to watch. :) In case Loki is a girl, is there any way to discourage them from breeding?
 

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Hi Ann and :welcome: to Talk Budgies

Both Tony and Loki are very cute! :love:

It would be best to post full-frontal pictures of the cere taken in natural light for the most accurate determination of gender.

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Thank you again. I'll be sure to read through everything and I'll try to get a better picture of Loki tomorrow. I did do some research on them before getting them, but I definitely have some more reading to do. I want to make sure they're happy and healthy and have a long life. :)
 

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Hi Ann and :welcome: to Talk Budgies!

Tony and Loki are beautiful :D FaeryBee has given you lots of good reading material and I'm so glad to hear that you've done your research and will be doing even more! :thumbsup: It truly is lovely to meet people like you!

From what I can see, Loki is a boy as well, although, as you know, better pictures would surely help to confirm this.

If you have any questions after reading through everything, be sure to ask as we'd love to help!

In the meantime, I can't wait to see more of both your budgies ;)

Cheers! :wave:
 

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Welcome to the forums! :)

This is the perfect example of how a good photo taken in natural lighting can make all the difference.
No doubt your beautiful cobalt blue budgie Loki is a young female.
You have a really cute couple there! :love:
 

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I agree, Loki is a little girl!

It's funny how lighting changes things so drastically! :laughing2:

I think you should keep her name--in mythology, Loki could turn into anything, even once a female horse! :eek: Plus, she tricked us with her gender :rolleyes:
 

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Thank you all so much! I'll be doing a lot of reading in next few days, especially on discouraging egg laying. We'll definitely keep her name. My husband, kids and I are all big superhero nerds so my daughters wanted to name them Tony (after Ironman) and Loki (after Thor's brother). I thought Loki was such a cute name any way, I can't see calling her anything else. :)
 

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Ann, I agree, their names are perfect :D

Here's a terrible joke I make a habit of telling people who enjoy the Avengers:

What did Loki say to Tony when the lights went out?

"Wow, it'stark!"


Not to derail your thread :001_rolleyes: I can't wait to see more of them ;)
That's funny! I'll have to tell my kids that one. They'll get a kick out of it. :)
Just out of curiosity, we've had Tony and Loki for about 3 weeks. What are the odds that they've already bred? I've seen them feeding each other and today, Loki looked like she was grooming Tony. I do have a spare cage that I can use if I need to separate them, but I really don't want to do that unless I have to.
 

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The odds that your budgies have mated during the short time they have been with you are very slim, in fact I'd say they are slim to none.
Your Loki is fairly young (below 6 months old) and is not yet in breeding condition. Just because they are bonding well and you have seen your budgies preening and feeding each other, it doesn't mean that they have already mated. This is something all budgies will do to show affection and this is whether they are a female/male couple or not. Even clutch siblings will feed each other and preen while on the nest.

As long as you take the precautions to discourage breeding and watch their behaviours on a daily basis to watch out for the signs of more heavy courtship (where the male tries to impress the female by the means of heated singing in hopes the female will fall for him and in the process there is an actual mating attempt), then all should be well.
If later on you do notice these undesired more passionate advances between your budgies (heavy courtship and mating attempts), you can then take a more radical approach and house them on separate cages.
Hopefully it won't come to that, and from my experience I can tell you that this doesn't happen very often.
 

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Ok, good. Thank you so much. I was freaking out there for a minute. When I was a kid, I only had one budgie at a time, so I've never seen them interact with each other like that. I have noticed that if Tony starts getting a little too affectionate, that Loki will peck at him a couple times to get him to back off. I'll keep a close eye on them, though.
 
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