Thank you I was reading like crazy and figured the lacewing out. You think baby 3 is sky? She seems lighter grey in color when I look at her feathers. I read that cinnamon dilutes the body color so I figured that's why the grey looked lighter. Since all the babies appear to be grey, I figured Church was a df versus sf. But I guess he is sf?A lacewing budgie looks exactly like Cozette except with very faint brown markings :thumbsup: I agree that the baby appears to be sky blue, opaline, cinnamon, making it a girl
I forgot to mention that opaline is masked by albino, so if some of the chicks turn out to be male opalines, you know Cozette is hiding opaline. Any cinnamon chicks will be female, though![]()
She very well may be grey, it's rather hard to tell still as there's not much body colour on them yet. Both sky and grey look rather similar at this stage, so in a few more days you should be able to tell if she's skyThank you I was reading like crazy and figured the lacewing out. You think baby 3 is sky? She seems lighter grey in color when I look at her feathers. I read that cinnamon dilutes the body color so I figured that's why the grey looked lighter. Since all the babies appear to be grey, I figured Church was a df versus sf. But I guess he is sf?
So lets say baby 3 is a grey opaline cinnamon, if she was paired with a male INO could she have lacewings?She very well may be grey, it's rather hard to tell still as there's not much body colour on them yet. Both sky and grey look rather similar at this stage, so in a few more days you should be able to tell if she's skyFor right now, I'm going to assume grey since Churchill does look like a df grey to me
Cinnamon and opaline do both dilute the body feathers, actually, which, when paired with grey, is an absolutely stunning mutation![]()
No problem and you're very welcome!Ok thank you. That makes sense, sorry about the thread.
Thank You. It really is a blessing.No problem and you're very welcome!
Enjoy the amazing experience and blessing that is to witness the daily development and all the milestones reached by your chicks.![]()
Lacewings would only occur if the male is split for cinnamon, as only one gene from the female would make all males split (not show visual) and females lack in the gene altogether.So lets say baby 3 is a grey opaline cinnamon, if she was paired with a male INO could she have lacewings?
I would say: you may get Lacewing girls if you are very lucky. There needs to be a cross over event which happens about 3% of the time between ino and cinnamon genes.So to summarise, just pairing a cinnamon female with an ino male will not give you lacewings unless the male is definitely split for cinnamon, in which case you will get some lacewing girls :thumbsup:
Thanks for mentioning this, Toni. Yes, the key word is "may". For this reason, Lacewings are considered a "rare" mutation even though technically they're as easy to breed for as cinnamon opaline or any other combination of basic sex-linked mutations.I would say: you may get Lacewing girls if you are very lucky. There needs to be a cross over event which happens about 3% of the time between ino and cinnamon genes.![]()
But a male INO could not be split to cinnamon because cinnamon and INO are codominant.... So i am confused by this.Lacewings would only occur if the male is split for cinnamon, as only one gene from the female would make all males split (not show visual) and females lack in the gene altogether.
Pairing a non-ino female with an Ino male will give you all Ino girls--and if the male were split for cinnamon, you would get some visual lacewing girls.
You would get some cinnamon boys, too, with both the female and the male carrying a cinnamon gene, but no lacewing males, as they would need two copies of the ino gene present to show it. All males would be split for Ino (as the one X chromosome inherited from their father would carry Ino and their other X chromosome from their mother would not) and all girls, as mentioned would be visual Ino as they only need one carrying X chromosome to show it.
So to summarise, just pairing a cinnamon female with an ino male will not give you lacewings unless the male is definitely split for cinnamon, in which case you will get some lacewing girls :thumbsup: