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I bought Baby last week as a partner for Luv... He/She looked energetic and healthy at the shop... I am sure that he/she is a recessive pied but I was wondering about the barring on the head. On the internet I have seen recessive pieds to have barring on their head and around their eyes but his/her barring are quite faint, does it mean he/she has acquired the adult plumage... and looks like Baby is a girl 'cause I see slight whitish rings around the nostrils.. please help me.. THANK YOU :p
 

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It looks like she may be a girl, but to help determine that, a full-frontal picture of the cere in natural light would be better.
I agree you have a gorgeous recessive pied there, the faint barring on the head is probably due to a mutation like Opaline which makes the barring fainter. I think it's possible she's opaline, which would cause that. Also, markings vary with recessive pieds, so the bars aren't always going to be in the same general areas. :thumbsup:
 

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I'm afraid I have no idea about early gender and his/her genetics, but you have such a pretty budgie babe!
 

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I have this thing with Baby..... during the day his/her cere looks solid pink but as the sun goes down... I seem to see whitish ring around his/her nostrils..... is it just me or has it happened with someone too?:S
 

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I had read somewhere that opalines have a streak or a blotch of their body colour on their main tail feathers. I have seen that out of Baby's two main tail feathers one is completely yellow as is the body colour with a white shaft but the other one is olive green as the rump but the shaft starts with begining white and ending with black.. And the best part I that the shaft is neatly borders by yellow where there should have been olive green... Is this a characteristic of recessive pied or an opaline?
 

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From the new light pictures, it's clear that Baby is a darling little boy! Maybe you can call him "Babe"? ;)
Natural light highlights the natural color of the cere, without it being washed out. :)
He's gorgeous!
And about the tail feathers--looks like you have both.
Here is an example of opaline tail feathers:

Recessive pied tail feathers vary, but most are either the same color as the face (yellow or white) or patchy grey or olive.
Does that make sense?
 

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My Twigs (sig pic one with the blue belly) is recessive pied, and he is a DNA'd male (acts male too fwiw), and he has white nostril rings. Recessive pied ceres are different from normals, and I'm not sure if there is a way to tell male and female visually (StarlingWings?), unless a female is in breeding condition and turns brown.

I think recessive pieds are cute not only because of their dark eyes as adults, but because of the head barring pattern of many of them, it looks like they're wearing "headphones"... the kind that cover your ears, with the part that goes over your head. :giggle: Twigs doesn't have much head barring either.
 

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My Twigs (sig pic one with the blue belly) is recessive pied, and he is a DNA'd male (acts male too fwiw), and he has white nostril rings. Recessive pied ceres are different from normals, and I'm not sure if there is a way to tell male and female visually (StarlingWings?), unless a female is in breeding condition and turns brown.

I think recessive pieds are cute not only because of their dark eyes as adults, but because of the head barring pattern of many of them, it looks like they're wearing "headphones"... the kind that cover your ears, with the part that goes over your head. :giggle: Twigs doesn't have much head barring either.
Yes, you can tell male and female rec. pieds apart visually. Rec. pied ceres just stay the "baby color", except when females are in condition. Therefore, male's ceres just stay pinkish or purplish the whole time, females will be whiter and less "shiny".
Haha, budgie headphones! :giggle:
 

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Yes, you can tell male and female rec. pieds apart visually. Rec. pied ceres just stay the "baby color", except when females are in condition. Therefore, male's ceres just stay pinkish or purplish the whole time, females will be whiter and less "shiny".
Have you seen male rec. pied ceres that look like Twigs' with lighter around the nostrils? I'm wondering why he has lighter nostrils if he was DNA male? Ohhh I just saw you said females ceres are whiter (all over). :)
 

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I have seen Rec Pied males with shiny ceres and the light reflects like they have white rings around the nostrils. It is quite different from the chalky white that young females have on their way to getting adult tan ceres.
 
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