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Hi, I'm new to the group, though I've sought a lot of advice here already off of previous threads.
I have two budgies that I have had for about 2 months. One is only young (about 5 months old) called Pip, and the other I adopted only about 2 months ago but he is about 18mos old, Indy. I have made a vet appointment for a general check up for the pair of them for this week. I have noticed that both are moulting (and I can't wait for Pip's flight feathers to grow back after the breeder had really clipped them).
I have some minor concerns because I think Pip's poop is a bit runny, but then Indy shocked me today when I saw really dark teal green poop. I think I've worked out that he has been nibbling some leather from a bird toy we have and it has some dyed hemp/wood/leather on it. I assume these dyes are all safe as I bought it from a reputable pet store... Not sure if I should leave the toy in or not... What does everyone think? Any advice would be welcomed. I want them to have a stimulating cage, but it has to be safe too! :budge: Thanks! J
 

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Hi, and :welcome: Welcome to Talk Budgies!

Indy's poop could definitely be colored from the dye on the toy. The toys are generally colored with food coloring which is considered safe for the birds. I have a couple of dyed toys in my budgies cages. :)

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I'm looking forward to hearing all about Pip and Indy and hopefully seeing some pictures :photo: soon!!

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Hello and welcome to TB. It is an excellent idea to be safety conscious about your birds toys don't assume because you bought the toys from pet store they are fine. We have had some sad cases in the past where members budgies have been very ill or passed away because of poorly made toys rope that frayed and was ingested and ended up starving the bird because the rope would not move through the gut. I don't want to scare you unnecessarily some members here make and sell some safe and reliable toys .:budgie:
Have a look through the how to page they show you how to make some of your own.
 

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Welcome to the forums! :) Be sure to post some pics of your two budgies when you have a chance.
 

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Hi and welcome!

No not all store-bought toys are safe, mostly as Cathy has said, the problems seem to arise from ropes, threads and unsafe metals. I haven't had any trouble with the dyes making my birds sick but it is possible it can change the color of the droppings.

Making your own toys is fun and rewarding and you know what goes into them. I give my birds a mixture of store bought and home made :)
 

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:wave: G'day and welcome to TB!

I would not advocate the use of toys with dye in them that changes poop color because it might actually hide a REAL problem that you won't be able to see due to the dye.

A LOT of toys I have seen in reputable stores have zinc/galvanised wire, which can cause heavy metal poisoning. Handmade toys with stainless steel wire is the way to go.

As previously mentioned, rope perches and rope toys can cause fatal problems. Budgies are chronic chewers. Even if the rope is wound tighter than wire, budgies gnaw away, and eventually, all the itty bits ingested form a cropolith, which basically is a mass of undigested rope formed in the crop and also attracts food, fungus, bacteria etc. By the time your budgie is diagnosed, its generally too late. Perhaps it is only one in a hundred that are affected, but if its your bird that is THE ONE ...


Sandpaper sheets and sleeves for dowel perches are also sold in reputable pet stores to wear your birds nails down. They are bad for your budgie! The sandpaper makes sore spots on their feet, so they end up not gripping so their nails don't touch it anyhow. Then, if the sand causes a scratch to allow bacteria in, the inflammatory process means that blood flow to their feet is increased, which makes the nails grow even quicker!! AND, if that were not bad enough, aside from the potential bumblefoot infections, they also chew the sandpaper and the glue used to stick the sand down is suspect at best. Natural, bird safe branches of varying diameters is best for your bird. It will exercise the muscles of your birds feet and naturally wear their nails down. It also gives them bark to chew, which helps trim their beak too and gives them valuable cellulose, which they require in their diet.

The only other thing I can think of is a cuttlebone holder ....those metal ones. People have had dreadful cuts on their budgies from those holders. What I did was drilled two holes in the center of the cuttlebone and zip tied it to the cage.

I can't think of anything else you need to watch out for. Others may be able to think of other things.

Good luck! Look forward to your pics!
 
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