Birdie laid an egg and...

karenblodgett3261 said:

Do you have an avian vet? Does it look like an egg that won't come out, or part of her internal organ(s)? In either of those cases, an avian vet would be needed asap. The staff can give you more advice, but while waiting for replies here try to get her medical care.

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No avian vet here. It really doesn't appear to be another egg but the internal organ. It doesn't look good for that little tyke.

Cody said:

This is a prolapse and is considered an emergency, and needs treatment asap, this is a result of constant egg laying. If you cannot find a vet she will die, try contacting a wildlife rehab/rescue facility or a zoo, there may be someone there that can assist, or find an exotic vet. Are you in Nova Scotia if so try this place https://nicelocal.ca/nova-scotia/vet/type/treatment_of_exotic_animals/
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Locating an Avian Vet//On-Line Avian Veterinarian Help

Locate an Avian Vet Association of Avian Veterinarians Avian Association of Veterinarians Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma. When you rely on unskilled individuals, you delay effective treatment. This can prolong suffering...

www.talkbudgies.com

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I'm afraid those links show avion vets hundreds of miles from here. What would an avion vet do if I could get her to one?

Cody said:

They would assess the severity of the prolapse and clean and reinsert the tissue and if needed put in a stitch or 2 to hold things in place, give her pain meds, anti inflammatory meds, antibiotics, calcium, perhaps fluid under the skin if she is dehydrated and possibly tube feeding. This is very serious, please do you best to get her some help. Maybe if you contacted someone at this link they could refer you somewhere Home | Nova Scotia Veterinary Medical Association

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Ok, thank you so much for your advice!

Cody said:

Call any vet and ask if they can refer you to someone, you never know who they may know that could help.

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Tomorrow I'll call and see what I can find out. Thanks for the advice and your willingness to help.

Cody said:

Call any vet and ask if they can refer you to someone, you never know who they may know that could help.

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FaeryBee said:

Have you been able to contact a veterinarian yet?
Please update us on your budgie's condition.

The purpose of this forum is to promote the BEST PRACTICES in the care of budgies for their optimal Health and Well-Being
Locating an Avian Veterinarian

Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma.
This is important as "regular" vets will often overlook symptoms that are quickly obvious to an Avian Vet.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment.
This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.
If there are no Avian Vets near you, please find an Exotic Pet Veterinarian with experience in dealing with small birds.

FaeryBee said:

Have you been able to contact a veterinarian yet?
Please update us on your budgie's condition.

The purpose of this forum is to promote the BEST PRACTICES in the care of budgies for their optimal Health and Well-Being
Locating an Avian Veterinarian

Avian Vets have special training to determine the cause of symptoms resulting from illness or trauma.
This is important as "regular" vets will often overlook symptoms that are quickly obvious to an Avian Vet.
When you rely on anyone who has not had training in Avian diagnosis and care, you may be delaying effective treatment.
This can prolong suffering that may be avoidable.
The bird will often require a more intense, prolonged treatment with a poorer chance of full recovery than it would have if you seek prompt professional diagnosis and treatment at the first sign of illness.
If there are no Avian Vets near you, please find an Exotic Pet Veterinarian with experience in dealing with small birds.

If you have mixed genders, it is very important to do everything necessary to prevent breeding.
Budgies are much healthier and happier when they are never bred.
A Heartfelt Plea to All Members
Tips For Discouraging Breeding
Before You Ever Consider Breeding Your Budgies
Guidance for Breeding Advice Threads

A Healthy Diet for your Budgie
Quality Seed Mix
CuttleBones, Mineral Blocks and Manu Clay Roses
Safe Foods for Budgies
The Truth about GRIT

Please take the time to read through the Site Guidelines, the FAQs, the Budgie Articles and all of the Stickies located at the top of each section of the forum.
Additionally, please be sure to read the thread "Posting on the Forums" which is linked below.

Truly, the very BEST advice anyone can offer you is to take the time to read ALL of the stickies throughout the various Talk Budgie forums as well as the Budgie Articles we have posted.
(Stickies are threads “stuck” at the top of each forum sub-section)
These are great resources for Talk Budgie members and have a wealth of reliable information which will assist you to learn the best practices in caring for your budgies for their optimal health and well-being.

SITE GUIDELINES
Posting on the Forums
Let's Talk Budgies!
FAQ
Articles
Be Prepared for Veterinary Care Expense
Avian First Aid
Quarantine - Is it Really that Important?
Quarantine Your Birds
A Heartfelt Plea to All Members
Tips For Discouraging Breeding
Before You Ever Consider Breeding Your Budgies
Guidance for Breeding Advice Threads
Cage sizes.
Essentials to a Great Cage
Dangers to Pet Birds
Resource Directory

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Budgies are much healthier and happier when they are never bred.
A Heartfelt Plea to All Members
Tips For Discouraging Breeding
Before You Ever Consider Breeding Your Budgies
Guidance for Breeding Advice Threads

A Healthy Diet for your Budgie
Quality Seed Mix
CuttleBones, Mineral Blocks and Manu Clay Roses
Safe Foods for Budgies
The Truth about GRIT

Please take the time to read through the Site Guidelines, the FAQs, the Budgie Articles and all of the Stickies located at the top of each section of the forum.
Additionally, please be sure to read the thread "Posting on the Forums" which is linked below.

Truly, the very BEST advice anyone can offer you is to take the time to read ALL of the stickies throughout the various Talk Budgie forums as well as the Budgie Articles we have posted.
(Stickies are threads “stuck” at the top of each forum sub-section)
These are great resources for Talk Budgie members and have a wealth of reliable information which will assist you to learn the best practices in caring for your budgies for their optimal health and well-being.

SITE GUIDELINES
Posting on the Forums
Let's Talk Budgies!
FAQ
Articles
Be Prepared for Veterinary Care Expense
Avian First Aid
Quarantine - Is it Really that Important?
Quarantine Your Birds
A Heartfelt Plea to All Members
Tips For Discouraging Breeding
Before You Ever Consider Breeding Your Budgies
Guidance for Breeding Advice Threads
Cage sizes.
Essentials to a Great Cage
Dangers to Pet Birds
Resource Directory

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Have you been able to contact a veterinarian yet?
Please update us on your budgie's condition.

I'm still attempting to get old of a bird vet but it's not looking promising. In the list above, it says, "If you have mixed genders, it is very important to do everything necessary to prevent breeding."
My question is: how would one go about doing that other than keeping two birds in two different cages? I've got to say, I've never heard that one before.

FaeryBee said:

Budgies are much healthier and happier when they are never bred.

You asked how to discourage breeding.
Please read the information in the following links.

A Heartfelt Plea to All Members
Tips For Discouraging Breeding
Before You Ever Consider Breeding Your Budgies
Guidance for Breeding Advice Threads

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Greetings,
I talked with an Avian Vet's assistant today and she called me back shortly thereafter. The Vet says there is zero they can do in a case such as this. I had also mentioned to her that the bird appears to be trying to swallow something and keeps bobbing his head in and out consistently. I feel there's a tumor there.
Right or wrong, good or bad, the next nearest Avian Vet is hours away from here, so with much lamenting and weeping, I have to say, this little tyke will no doubt perish.
She flew out of the cage tonight but couldn't get back on her own. There was streaks of blood over the floor where she was fluttering about.
I thought I should at least report back and let ya's all know how things are going down.

Cody said:

So sorry, thank you for updating.

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Thank you for that and thank you for the efforts put forth on this forum. Much appreciated!

FaeryBee said:

Are you going to have them help her move on to the Rainbow Bridge?
That would be the kindest thing you could do under the circumstances.
You have my deepest sympathy.

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Right now, the little tyke is flipping around in the cage as though normal but we both know the final outcome. Not sure if I have the heart to put it down right yet. If she were squawking in pain, I'll have no choice.

StarlingWings said:

Hi there and welcome to the forums,

So sorry to hear about the situation with your girl. Please let us know how things progress! Is she still eating and drinking?

Meanwhile, as you look through the links provided above, be sure to let us know if you need any help or have questions as we'd be happy to answer those.

We look forward to the updates and sending warm wishes to you and your flock during this hard time~

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Thanks for your note. The wee bird is still eating and drinking although weak and puffed up. The inevitable will take place of course but right now, she's still with us.

karenblodgett3261 said:

The hardest part of owning a pet is making that final decision. Maybe it would help if you looked at it as a gift to her. Your gifting her by releasing her from a life full of pain. I'm so very sorry you're going through this heartbreaking situation.

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The birdie decided to split the scene early Saturday morning. It's totally lonely for the other little tyke. He's been super quiet and inactive.

Cody said:

So sorry for your loss, make sure your give your other bird extra love and attention.

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It'll be several weeks but we'll get another bird. It's several hours to get there but we won't leave the little tyke alone. I can tell he's missing the other one. I don't like it much to see him sitting there like that but yet, we'll be taking your advice and showing him lots of love!

Cody said:

Your other bird looks to be a female also.

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Cody said:

Your other bird looks to be a female also.

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It could very well be. I had thought in order to lay eggs, there has to be male and female. Apparently and according to what you're saying, that is not the case. What color do I look for over the beak for it to be a male?

StarlingWings said:

Adult males have a bright blue cere, often called "royal blue" with no white. Adult budgies can have either matte brown ceres or more beige, white or even light blue ceres with whitish cast around the nostrils (nares)

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Ok, well thank you for that. Would you recommend getting a male where one is female or does it make a difference?

Cody said:

Some females will lay infertile eggs even when there is no male around. I would suggest getting another female so you do not have to be concerned about unwanted breeding. Anytime you bring a new bird in you should observe quarantine rules and there is never a guarantee that two birds will get along if housed together so you must also be prepared to house them separately if necessary.

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Very good! Maybe that's why when this last one was laying eggs, she or the other one would destroy them. I'll ask for another female when we pick one up. Thanks for the advice!

StarlingWings said:

Cody has given excellent advice. Please let us know how things go

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I'll do that. Thank you so much for the help given on this forum!