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I have a situation I didn't anticipate :( I thought that by having 3 birds, possibly Buster would get upset not having a close friend - this is not the issue. Buster is really quite happy just being himself - Great!

My issue is with Reggie who has fallen head over heals, insanely in love with Oscar. I thought I had gotten them a nice big gentle MANLY English budgie friend, turns out this is Reggie's ideal type!!

Over the last few weeks Reggie has been feeding Oscar and clearly he's been very fond of the big chap always wanting to be near him. Over the last few days however, this has intensified and it came to a head last night leaving me a bit bewildered and confused about how to proceed.

Reggie feeds Oscar (constantly!) kicks, kisses and is generally just up in Oscars face all the time. On behalf of Oscar, I tried to shoo Reggie away last night only this made him mad haha. I wouldn't usually want to get involved, I know we cannot judge our birdies when its hormone related, but I wasn't enjoying seeing Oscar constantly pestered. Especially when it involved flying. Oscar isn't the best flier, so when agile Reggie shoots off after him it makes Oscar abort his mission and land anywhere with a crash, AND THEN Reggie is there again kissing him etc etc - this is just too much!

So anyway, my interfering obviously annoyed Reggie and then he turned into a savage! If I got Oscar on my hand and walked towards the cage Reggie would fly at us and try to land, if I gently discouraged this he would attack my hand and hang on. Then he turned into a maniac shouting and flying about and generally being in a rage. I got the spare cage but putting Oscar in it unaccompanied was hard. Eventually I had Oscar on his own in the spare care and Reggie sat on top looking in with his tail in the air gently vibrating his wings. I put Oscar in the spare room over night. If you've followed my posts previously you will know that Reggie and I have a very strong bond so its really out of character to be an **** to me.

This morning I wanted to reunite all 3 and we had all the same issues again - demon Reggie! I ended up separating them again with Oscar in the spare room and Reggie and Buster in their cage in the living room, their cage mostly covered. Reggie proceeded to shout at the top of his voice in a high pitch chirp calling for Oscar.

I don't give them a lot of protein currently, they don't get a huge amount of daylight these days. What can I do to shut down this crazy labido? I tried giving him his Penguin who he usually pounces on straight away, but even she wasn't of interest compared to Oscar!

Do I just wait for this to end and Reggie to give up and realize he's been friend zoned? He hasn't tried to mount him yet, or put his wings around him, but from what I've read hes doing all the classic wooing techniques.

I worry for their safety, their cage isnt small, but its not big enough to have these shenanigans going on whilst i'm at work. I would hate to find that Reggie had gotten into a fight with Buster, or Oscar finally maned up and shot him down.

Help! :)

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I can relate to this. My guy Georgie is obsessed with another of my boys, Bebe. It got so bad that I had put Georgie in another room with another bird that he is not obsessed with. I thought that after a few months his obsession would die down but it did not. A couple of weeks ago I brought all the birds together again and sure enough Georgie went straight to Bebe like there had never been a separation, so I have once again separated them. Bebe has his own buddy and there were fights between Georgie and Bebe's buddy Louie so I had to separate. Even just allowing separate out of the cage time did not work, they just cannot be in the same room. I don't know if this is hormonal since it has been going on for many months or just a case of an aggressive bird. There are hormone injections that the vet can give but I really don't want to do that to him so as long as he is content in another room with another bird I am just going to leave it at that for now. Bebe, unfortunately has a tumor and I don't want him harassed by Georgie.
How old is Reggie, is he going through his teenage period, if so he will hopefully grow out of it soon.
 

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I'm sorry Reggie is giving Oscar (and you) such a hard time.
I agree that for now it's best for Reggie to be separated from Oscar (different rooms) for at the very least a few weeks in order to hopefully give him the required time cool down and have his hormones more under control.

During this time you will have to divide yourself into the two rooms to cater to Reggie/Buster's and Oscar's needs (including daily attention/interaction and out of cage activities).

I hope everything goes well and later on you will be able to re-introduce Oscar to Reggie and Buster.
 

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Becky,

It's important that you keep Oscar separated from Reggie in a different cage in a different room of your home.
Otherwise, the situation is going to be continually stressful for Oscar both physically and emotionally.

In a few weeks (or months), you can try giving the three budgies out of cage time together to see how it goes.

Good luck!
 

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This is not a funny situation at all.... and you have my sincere empathies.... but I thought I would say that your writing style (about something un-funny)... is very humorous. Your writing makes me made me chuckle.

Good luck with this situation. I would imagine it's stressful. Hopefully Reggie will cool off. Hopefully he will realize that he should remain true to Ms. Penguin.
 

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You have a lot of options suggested.

I just wanted to add that my boy Jay, when he first came into condition was very hormonal and keen to woo the girls and I would have to work around him and the others to make sure he didn't spend all his time pestering the girl budgies.

He got over it and I'm sure Reggie will settle when this bout of hormones is over.
 

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Hi everyone,

Thank you for your replies! I was really hoping you would all tell me to stop over thinking it and to just let it happen....lol, sadly you actually replied with the suggestion I didn't want to hear.

Realistically, I cannot have 2 cages in 2 rooms permanently, so I will have to see how this temporary separation helps, but I really fear that as soon as they meet again it will be the same. After speaking to many people it sounds like this is it and Reggie may not forget his love for Oscar.
This morning was a nightmare, as soon as l lifted the cover off Reggie and Busters cage, Reggie was shouting at the top of his voice, very obviously calling for his mate :( It breaks my heart. This really is very stressful!!

I have 3 boys who I love dearly, but with this current situation I have one being hounded, one who doesn't get any look in (I don't think he cares but its not great that he gets shoo'd off for getting too close) and one whose a maniac. Then there is me, someone who loves their birds and loves the interaction I have with them, but Buster isnt bonded to me, Oscar isnt allowed to be with me, and Reggie my baby boy who has abandoned me!! I like to enjoy my pets, and in turn I give them the best love and care I can, maybe this is selfish but they're a big commitment and I want to enjoy them.

Sigh. I will see how the next few noisy weeks play out, and then I will have to decide what to do. I do have 2 friends with fantastic aviaries (indoor and outdoor) who would happily re-home Oscar should that be needed. Its really not the solution I want but it's potentially the way to make everyone happy......

:( I will keep you updated!
 

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Boy love

Our flock has had several very special friends through the years. When we were actively breeding we had the adult flights separated by sex and the new babies in their own flight with specially chosen wise and gentle **** birds to teach the youngsters the things the babies miss as they are often quickly sold to pet stores etc. An emotionally healthy budgie needs to learn to bond with other budgies before the ability to bond with humans matures to the best it can be.

Many humans have strong friendships that are not considered abnormal.
We have had several pairs that have remained bonded through their entire lives. We often bring couples that are too old to safely breed in to have little honey moons and it is truly beautiful to watch them reconnect.

In our handicapped cage we have 2 hens and 2 cocks. Recently one of the very old hens, Cinnamon passed on and now we are working with Our Teddy to help her regain her joy in the flock. She immediately lost weight and is really missing her special friend. So We have introduced one of our older hens to see if in time they may be able to form a bond with each other, This takes time and there are no strict rules to follow.

In the mean time We have Apollo and Sky, who are best friends, bust sky also has a bond with his special hen so we have to provide time for this. Sky's younger brother is also close to Apollo so we give sky a break and and we give Apollo extra attention. We move birds around between flights and cages which is part of healthy change that wild birds experience every day.

So what I am saying is to allow for special friends to have time and then take a break and move birds around. Renewing birdie friendships has been a very special experience to share with our flock. A flock is a family that can experience change and still support the members of the budgie and human members of the flock. Change can be refreshing as long as it is not based on fear. Work with what nature has provided. and enjoy life with our wonderful Birdies , Blessings, Jo Ann:wild:
 

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It seems that Reggie and Buster were doing very well together prior to Oscar's introduction, is that correct?

My impression is that Reggie spent more time with you than with Buster and you were concerned about Buster needing a "friend" which is how/why Oscar came into the picture.

Perhaps I'm confused, if so - please restate how having three budgies came about...

My feeling is that you owe your allegiance first and foremost to Reggie and Buster. I'm not downplaying Oscar's importance, it's just that the other two were there first so they should be the ones who remain should the time come when anybudgie does need to be rehomed.

It's always a gamble when you bring another budgie into the mix and everyone should be prepared that there may be issues which result in the new bird needing to be caged separately on a permanent basis.

While I hope that is not the case for you and that Reggie will be able to curb his over-enthusiasm the next time he interacts with Oscar, I would caution you to be prepared that chances are Reggie's behavior will not change.

Please keep us posted in this thread regarding updates on the three and the outcome of the journey.

I wish you all the best!
 

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Hi Everyone,

Thought I should give you all an update about my 3 boys. Last time I wrote on here I was in a bit of a pickle because I had recently introduced Oscar my English budgie to the flock and Reggie my little silly pet boy had fallen crazy stupid in love with him. I asked for advise, and thank you all who replied! I didn't want to go against the advice given (to separate Reggie from Oscar and Buster for an extended period of time to let him cool off) but I also didn't want to take that drastic action without giving it one last go. I had them separated, and I decided I just wanted to give them one last try as I was working from home that day and had hours to watch them. I am so glad that I did this!! I let them out and the craziness continued, Reggie was all over Oscar, and Buster wasn't allowed a look in. However, after a couple of hours this all relaxed and Reggie had calmed down.

After that afternoon slowly everything started to get better and there would be initial silliness and then reasonable calm. It's taken many weeks, but we are now at a point where I haven't used the divider in their cage for over a month (I was putting it in and keeping Oscar and Buster together, and Reggie on his own during the day and at night) and there is a new relationship that's formed between Oscar and Buster. I have to owe a lot of this happy outcome to Miss Penguin - she's our penguin on wheels toy - as she has kept her man happy and distracted. I wouldn't usually want to encourage a relationship between my boys and an inanimate object, however she has served a fantastic purpose without becoming an infatuation. Often I will catch Reggie chatting up Oscar, feeding him etc, and then he will hop to the floor and .... er..... continue the affections with Miss Penguin. I can keep her available to him all day whilst he is out, and he will visit her boudoir, and then continue to either play with me or play with the other two without being too aggressive or obsessed. The only issue I have with this is that if she's not out on the floor, he will jump on to the box where she lives and shout until she come out to play. This isn't great but in the last few weeks I've noticed his desire to court her has lessened and she can remain out of site for longer.

Something that I have found so lovely to see, is the relationship that has formed between Oscar and Buster. Previously both Reggie and Oscar were little gits to him, and would shoo him away for no reason other than playground bullying. Now however, Oscar has started to really enjoy Busters attention, he puffs up his head for him and even does the most adorable fast head bob that I've never seen him do for Reggie. They will often hang out together, usually running about on the floor with Buster running excited rings around Oscar. It's so so cute to watch and see them all happy. We still have an issue that they can only really play in pairs, R & O, R & B, B & O and if the other tries to join in they are usually shooed away, but as this is happening equally between them all I do not worry. Usually Reggie is annoying me anyway so Buster and Oscar can hang out in peace.

I'm currently looking for a larger cage for my 3, I feel confident that I no longer need the dividing cage and I want to give them some more space.

So that's where we are, a dysfunctional, functional trio of boys! I've included some photos since my last message, I've also included before and after photos of Oscar and his tail. He went from a scruffy ground dwelling rat to my beautiful perching prince and I'm so pleased he looks so handsome 











Sorry its a long one again!
 
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