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Hi! I have a budgie I need sexing, if anyone could help that'd be great! :) He/She is young, I've heard that a pink cere means male, which is what im hoping it is.
 

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For gender determination, it is best to have a full-frontal picture of the cere taken in natural light.

From what I can see of the cere in the pictures you posted, it looks as if he is a male.
 

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Your new budgie is gorgeous! :love:
I agree that a better photo showing the whole beak/cere area will help in confirming your budgie's gender.
From the first photo you posted, it does seem that you have a young male there. If the cere has a uniform, solid pinkish colour then you will know he is a boy.
 

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Thanks Faery, I know nothint about mutations, do you know what he is? I've never seen a bird his color before. It's like pastel.

Also, do you have any estimate as to when his cere will turn color and he becomes old enough to mate? The reason im asking is because i have a nesting box, which my friend gave to me. I put it in there when I had all females just to see what they'd do, and they played in it and slept in there so I kept it in, and this morning I found an egg in there. It's strange since he's my only male, but he keeps feeding the hen who laid it. Its like he is the father but I didn't think he was old enough.
 

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Your budgie is a sky blue greywing yellow face type II clearflight pied.
He is very young, looking at him I'd say he is 3 months old, he's clearly not gone through his first moult yet.
His cere will change colour at about 6 months old but this doesn't mean he will be ready to breed. Budgies are only fit to breed after they reach adulthood and this is after reaching 1 year of age.

It's never a good idea to place a nest box or any other type of nesting areas on a cage as that would only encourage breeding behaviour which will lead to unwanted egg laying.

In order to avoid complications and since you don't yet seem to have a good grasp of the species nor the required experience in budgie ownership, it's not at all advisable to allow your hen to lay a full clutch of eggs or to let her breed.
http://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breeding/327881-heartfelt-plea-forum-members-new-old.html

Please remove the nest box, discard the egg and follow the recommendations on this link in order to break your hen's egg laying cycle:

http://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breeding/90584-when-we-dont-want-eggs.html
 

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I had the box in there when there was only females, I was pretty confident that he was a male, I just wanted a second opinion just to make sure. I kept the egg box in since they play in it and sleep in there often I was planning on taking it out once the male reached maturity. If they like the box, their eggs are infertile, and he cannot fertilize the eggs yet, what's the point of removing the box?

Also, the egg box won't make much of a difference of egg laying, before the box she dropped two eggs and they smashed at the cage bottom. I'm not planning on breeding, I just put it in there for curiosity and they like it.
 

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The purpose of this forum is to promote best practices for the health and well-being of budgies.

Having a nest box in a cage when you have a female encourages breeding. You need to remove the nest box immediately for the well-being of your budgies. Laying eggs, even if unfertile, takes a toll on the budgies' body and depletes its calcium levels.

Please follow the advice given and remove the nestbox.
 

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What do I do with the egg? Is it infertile? If it's infertilr why does the male keep feeding her? So many questions, sorry xD.
 

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When a male and female mate successfully, the egg only becomes viable after being properly incubated for a few days.

Please remove and dispose of the egg, remove the nestbox, and discourage any further egg laying.

Rearranging their cage frequently, and limiting the light they get to 8 hours a night will help tremendously. Please be sure you never put a nest box or anything that could be used as a nesting site in their cage.

When they come into condition, limit the amount of protein in their diet at that time. :)

When We Don't Want Eggs

Breeding in a colony setting is never recommended.

http://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breeding/106210-cage-colony-breeding-differences-dangers.html

http://talkbudgies.com/budgie-breeding/327881-heartfelt-plea-forum-members-new-old.html
 

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Yes, the egg is infertile and you can simply throw it in the trash.
Budgies will feed each other and this is regardless of genders, they do so as a sign of affection.
 

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I still dont understand. If there is an actual bird growing inside the egg I dont want to throw it away like its trash. Is there any way to know its fertile?

I havent seen them mating, but that doesn't mean they never have. I've only seen him feeding her inside the box.
 

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There is not any bird growing inside the egg because there haven't been any matings between your budgies and the egg is clear.
It's impossible for life to grow on a egg which has not been fertilized by the male and after that, the hen must go into full incubation mode.
Life is only formed in the egg after a few days of proper incubation.
Please follow the advice given, we are only thinking of your budgies especially of your laying hen's overall safety and welfare. At this point in time, it's not viable to go through with breeding.
This male budgie is very young and I seriously doubt he had the time to truly bond in such a way that there have been matings involved.
 

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Yes. She's been incubating the egg, she won't even leave the box. The male budgie goes inside the box, chews the wood, and feeds her. Which is why I'm so confused. If he didn't mate with her why would he do that, I've heard of budgies having infertile eggs, but not where they incubate the egg and won't leave the box much.

Oh, and the egg was laid last night so I can't candle it.
 

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As you've been told, the egg is not currently viable, meaning there is no life in it. The egg was laid yesterday so there is no way any life has formed.

Would you please remove the egg and nest box now?

If you are unwilling to follow the advice being given for the welfare of your budgies then the forum cannot give you additional help.

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In the future, when you realize you've made a mistake or have something you need to add to what you've already posted, please click the EDIT button at the bottom of your post and add the information to the Original post rather than putting it into a post immediately following one you just made. :D
 

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You've removed both the egg and the nest box, correct?

How many budgies are in the cage in total?

You need to rearrange the cage totally: toys, perches, food and water dishes at this time.
 

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That's good to know.
Since the egg was laid last night, you can safely discard it, there is no life in it at present even if by chance your budgies have mated.

Your budgies will soon settle. It's important now to watch their behaviours and if they continue to exhibit breeding behaviour even despite the measures to discourage this, then you will have to place your broody female on a different cage to throw her off breeding condition and to break her egg laying cycle.
 

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Thank you for removing the egg and nest box.
Totally rearranging the cage, limiting daylight hours and ensuring there are no nesting sites available is important.

As aluz has indicated, if the female lays again, she will need to be separated into a different cage to break her laying cycle.

How many birds total are in the cage at this time?
 
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